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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:35 AM Apr 2014

Your preference for Letterman's successor on "Late Night"

Dave's out of there in '15. He'll be a tough act to follow


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Conan O'Brien
5 (38%)
Craig Ferguson(specify with or without "Geoff" and/or with or without a band)
4 (31%)
Chelsea Handler
0 (0%)
Anybody who hasn't quit "SNL" yet
0 (0%)
Space Ghost
1 (8%)
The national anthem, followed by a test pattern
2 (15%)
Oh...what the hell...Leno
0 (0%)
other
1 (8%)
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Your preference for Letterman's successor on "Late Night" (Original Post) Ken Burch Apr 2014 OP
Jay Leno's not a choice?... n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2014 #1
Why would they go with somebody all Letterman, Kimmel, and "COCO" fans despise? Ken Burch Apr 2014 #2
I thought Leno was consistently leading in the ratings? Jenoch Apr 2014 #44
Leno's ratings had been sliding for years. Ken Burch Apr 2014 #46
What were the recent ratings Leno vs Letterman? Jenoch Apr 2014 #47
Not sure...but not good enough for the NBC brass. Ken Burch Apr 2014 #58
Jay Leno had the highest late night talkshow ratings. Jenoch Apr 2014 #61
Not by much, though, and here's the calculation CBS would make, I think Ken Burch Apr 2014 #64
Why are you speculating to me about Jenoch Apr 2014 #66
Because this exchange we're having started with somebody asking why Leno wasn't a choice in my poll. Ken Burch Apr 2014 #67
I simply responed to your post where you Jenoch Apr 2014 #68
Ugh! Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #25
...WHAT heart?... Ken Burch Apr 2014 #34
Good *point* -- heh heh. Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #56
I voted COCO but would be happy with Craig. With Geoff, of course. Coventina Apr 2014 #3
Other Joe Shlabotnik Apr 2014 #4
Could Geoff do the Pict gibberish? n/t. Ken Burch Apr 2014 #5
Space Ghost with Brak as his co-host azurnoir Apr 2014 #6
+1000 Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #20
Zorak, can you help me? shenmue Apr 2014 #39
Yes!!!! redwitch Apr 2014 #70
It's time for a woman. How about Ellen or Wanda Sykes! mucifer Apr 2014 #7
That's what I was thinking, a woman davidpdx Apr 2014 #10
Queen Latifah would be great eShirl Apr 2014 #11
Couple of other possibilities along that line: Ken Burch Apr 2014 #33
I didn't even think of Wanda... GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #35
CraigyFerg eShirl Apr 2014 #8
That one is tough davidpdx Apr 2014 #9
interesting, thanks for posting it. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #21
I like for them to bring back the late movie. B Calm Apr 2014 #12
Hear, hear! Let's begin by rerunning all of Richard Chamberlain's TV miniseries... First Speaker Apr 2014 #13
The Thorn Birds! B Calm Apr 2014 #32
I'm going to toss a wild card into the Fray - Jon Stewart LynneSin Apr 2014 #14
These days, TDS and the Report are almost like Letterman anyway. KamaAina Apr 2014 #31
That ship may have sailed. For years, everyone talked about Stewart as being the most likely next Midwestern Democrat Apr 2014 #49
I think Neil Patrick Harris or Ellen DeGeneres would be good. charlie and algernon Apr 2014 #15
Tina Fey or Raffi Ella Apr 2014 #16
+1 Agschmid Apr 2014 #17
Why not BOTH? Ken Burch Apr 2014 #29
haha, Poor Taylor. Raffi Ella Apr 2014 #52
I read that it was already in Craig Ferguson's contract that he takes over Lex Apr 2014 #18
Do you have a link? pokerfan Apr 2014 #27
No link. Posted on Facebook Lex Apr 2014 #28
I found a link Lex Apr 2014 #41
Thanks pokerfan Apr 2014 #43
I believe it's a very toothless clause - unless it contains a massive penalty payment (like the $30 Midwestern Democrat Apr 2014 #48
Actually Dave Letterman has probably retained the absolute ability to choose his replacement Lex Apr 2014 #55
He may not want to, however OmahaBlueDog Apr 2014 #54
Other geardaddy Apr 2014 #19
He was hilarious on SNL last weekend. Raffi Ella Apr 2014 #22
Do you watch "Louie"? geardaddy Apr 2014 #23
No, you know Raffi Ella Apr 2014 #24
You can get the first three seasons on Netflix. geardaddy Apr 2014 #26
I meant to look him up last weekend and forgot all about it. Raffi Ella Apr 2014 #53
Other: KamaAina KamaAina Apr 2014 #30
Dave Chappelle. GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #36
I just read that Colbert is on the top of the list for Letterman's replacement graywarrior Apr 2014 #37
Craig Ferguson gets first dibs Lex Apr 2014 #42
Stephen Colbert Is CBS's #1 Choice and He Wants to Do It: pokerfan Apr 2014 #38
+1 applegrove Apr 2014 #45
IF Colbert gets it will he do it in character like on his Comedy Central show? NightWatcher Apr 2014 #63
According to the article I linked pokerfan Apr 2014 #74
I never watch Leno. I seldom watch Conan. Demoiselle Apr 2014 #40
I don't watch Leno either. No one does anymore. UrbScotty Apr 2014 #59
Neil Patrick Harris grasswire Apr 2014 #50
Well I hadn't thought of him but I like that idea! progressoid Apr 2014 #51
Anyone but Conan O'Boredom - I'd tell you why, but I'm getting sleepy just thinking of him (nt) UrbScotty Apr 2014 #57
Well, I've never "gotten" what the FALLON hype is all about. n/t UTUSN Apr 2014 #62
Aisha Tyler Liberalynn Apr 2014 #60
Chelsea Handler...here's why.. doxydad Apr 2014 #65
Other: Nobody. Chan790 Apr 2014 #69
Create a completely new show. Create something unlike what is currently on TV mulsh Apr 2014 #71
Create a completely new show. Create something unlike what is currently on TV mulsh Apr 2014 #72
No one alive can replace Dave brooklynboy49 Apr 2014 #73
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. Why would they go with somebody all Letterman, Kimmel, and "COCO" fans despise?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:44 AM
Apr 2014

At the end, Leno was tanking in the ratings.

Do you think giving Jay the job would actually make any sense?

(on edit)

all right, all right, I've freaking added Leno as an option...since this is a Democratic board, it's hard to imagine anybody here would want the guy who let Arnold Schwarzenegger announce his candidacy for California governor on HIS show would get many votes.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
46. Leno's ratings had been sliding for years.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:33 AM
Apr 2014

If Leno was really ratings gold, NBC would never have canned him.

Plus, why would CBS hire somebody who'd deliberately driven NBC's own late-night ratings down(when CoCo still had TONIGHT!)by intentionally doing a show at ten o'clock that nobody would want to watch?

Why would they want a guy who had already proven that he couldn't be trusted not to sabotage other people on his own network?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
58. Not sure...but not good enough for the NBC brass.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 01:49 PM
Apr 2014

And we can pretty well assume that nobody who watched Dave would stick around to watch Jay...why would they switch to the guy they've seen as the comedy antichrist for twenty years?

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
61. Jay Leno had the highest late night talkshow ratings.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:09 PM
Apr 2014

His demographics skewed to an older audience however.

I never suggested that Leno should replace Letterman. My point was that Leno beat Letterman in the number of viewers they each had.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
64. Not by much, though, and here's the calculation CBS would make, I think
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 07:03 PM
Apr 2014

(I realize you aren't arguing FOR Leno, but just wanted to finish my point)

Jay might bring his old audience to Dave's slot, but he'd pretty much lose all of Dave's audience, wouldn't gain any or Kimmel's, Fallon's, or O'brien's, and the viewers Jay would bring in wouldn't buy as much stuff as the people who watched Dave, or Jimmy, or the other Jimmy, or CoCo.

My guess is that, from here on in, Jay will be about club dates, Vegas, state fairs, and maybe "entertaining the troops&quot which would make sense, since it always looked like Jay's business plan was to become the next Bob Hope).

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
67. Because this exchange we're having started with somebody asking why Leno wasn't a choice in my poll.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 08:16 PM
Apr 2014

Your posts, initially, appeared to be part of the discussion on that.

But I'm going to drop it now.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
68. I simply responed to your post where you
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 08:49 PM
Apr 2014

wrote that Leno was tankng in the ratings which was not the case. I never wrote anything or hinted that Leno should replace Letterman.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
4. Other
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:51 AM
Apr 2014

I suggest Craig Ferguson followed by the Scottish national anthem, followed by 5 hours of Pict gibberish and classic mondo footage for those still awake and grooving on psychedelics.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
10. That's what I was thinking, a woman
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:58 AM
Apr 2014

I doubt Ellen would leave daytime. I know who Sykes is because I saw her in Mother-In-Law and the part fit her perfectly. I've seen a bit of her stand-up. Not sure if she'd be a fit or not.

I think it needs to be someone younger to match Jimmy Fallon. I'd say under 40 and a woman if possible.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
33. Couple of other possibilities along that line:
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:16 PM
Apr 2014

1)Amy Schumer.

2)Abby Jacobson and Illana Glazer(the "Broad City" team...watch that show if you haven't, btw)in the "Late Late" time slot if Craig moves to "The Late Show".

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
35. I didn't even think of Wanda...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:42 PM
Apr 2014

She is one of my favorite comedians. I really like Ellen, too. But, if I had to choose between them, I'd go with Wanda.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. That one is tough
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:53 AM
Apr 2014

I like Craig Ferguson and use to watch his show when I lived in the US (and I occasionally watch clips on Youtube). However I don't think he'd be the right pick.

I think they need to think outside the box with someone younger.

Had Conan not already switched over to where he is now, I think it may have been his to lose. I strongly doubt he's going to leave so soon after moving.

Choosing a woman would be a good idea. It would shake up the idea that late night is not just a men's thing.

On Edit:

I just came across this. Apparently Ferguson's contract for the Late Late Show is up next year. If he opts out they could have to replace both of them.

CBS Approached John Oliver for Late Night Show as Major Shuffle Looms (Exclusive)

In the weeks after John Oliver successfully filled in for Jon Stewart on Comedy Central's The Daily Show last summer, CBS executives initiated talks with Oliver's representatives about launching a show on their network, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

The pitch was for Oliver potentially to occupy the 12:30 time slot currently filled by The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson in the event Ferguson does not re-up his contract at the end of 2014, or possibly for Oliver to launch a different show that would be syndicated by CBS, according to sources.

snip

Still, replacing Letterman and potentially Ferguson will be a much more difficult task than it might have been two decades ago, when Letterman defected from NBC's Late Night to launch his CBS show. As evidenced by Oliver's decision to host a Sunday HBO show, cable networks have emerged as a plum perch for late-night comics. That's a far cry from the broadcast-dominated world Letterman joined with Late Show.

snip

Names ranging from Ellen DeGeneres and Neil Patrick Harris to Chris Rock and Conan O'Brien (still doing a broadcast-style show despite a cable platform on TBS) have already surfaced as potential Letterman replacements, with multiple sources agreeing Ferguson is not seriously in the running. Female-skewing Chelsea Handler surely will put her hat in the ring too, after THR reported earlier this week that she plans to leave E! at the conclusion of her contract this year.

snip

Given the challenge (and high cost) of recruiting a top talent to replace Letterman, CBS could go the route of placing an unknown or emerging talent in Letterman's chair. "Do they want a 20th Century show or do they want a 21st Century show?" asks one source familiar with the late-night TV wars, referring to the viral videos and stunts that have helped Fallon and Kimmel lure younger viewers and increase relevance in the digital era. "ABC and NBC have both shifted to 21st Century shows."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbs-approached-john-oliver-late-693587

There you have it, Ferguson is probably not going to be replacing Letterman.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
13. Hear, hear! Let's begin by rerunning all of Richard Chamberlain's TV miniseries...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:22 AM
Apr 2014

...and go from there...

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
14. I'm going to toss a wild card into the Fray - Jon Stewart
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:10 AM
Apr 2014

Stewart has done a great job giving us the fake news for over a decade. He does great interviews but I think it's time for him to move on to bigger and better things.

Let's give him a late show on one of the major networks.

I'd give more cowbell if it was Stephen Corbert too!

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
31. These days, TDS and the Report are almost like Letterman anyway.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:37 PM
Apr 2014

Every time either one gets an interview with someone important, it takes up two-thirds of the show.

49. That ship may have sailed. For years, everyone talked about Stewart as being the most likely next
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 01:46 AM
Apr 2014

network late night host, but somehow it never happened - he was up for the 11:30 ABC show but they went with Jimmy Kimmell because the ABC executives worried that Stewart's humor might be too smart for the broad audience and that Kimmell had more of an "everyman" appeal.

I certainly thought he was going to get the 12:30 CBS show when CBS forced out Tom Snyder, but Letterman's company shockingly went with Craig Kilborn instead - and to add to the irony, Stewart, in turn, replaced Kilborn on "The Daily Show" - a clear case of Comedy Central getting the diamond and CBS getting the shaft.

charlie and algernon

(13,447 posts)
15. I think Neil Patrick Harris or Ellen DeGeneres would be good.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:16 AM
Apr 2014

Change things up a bit and especially NPH could do more music skits to counter Jimmy Fallon.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
29. Why not BOTH?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:37 PM
Apr 2014

After all, they do a killer "team" act hosting those award shoes.

Taylor Swift would never be a guest but...well, so what?

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
52. haha, Poor Taylor.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:31 AM
Apr 2014

I think Hollywood would be shaking in their boots with the two of them at the Letterman helm...

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
27. Do you have a link?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:23 PM
Apr 2014

While Craig an hour earlier would be nice, I'm not sure how well his brand of off-the-wall humor would translate to 11:30.

48. I believe it's a very toothless clause - unless it contains a massive penalty payment (like the $30
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:53 AM
Apr 2014

million penalty clause Conan O'Brien got as part of his 2004 deal to take over "The Tonight Show" in 2009), it's not going to affect CBS's decision making one bit.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
55. Actually Dave Letterman has probably retained the absolute ability to choose his replacement
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:24 PM
Apr 2014

given the fiasco with NBC/Johnny Carson and Letterman. Letterman pretty much wrote his own terms the last few times he went in negotiations for staying on at CBS. He wouldn't have overlooked that.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
54. He may not want to, however
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:30 AM
Apr 2014

He's got a good thing going where he is now, and the slightly later hour gives him a bit more creative freedom.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
23. Do you watch "Louie"?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:35 PM
Apr 2014

Did you see the episode where he's supposed to take over for Letterman after he retires? It was a good episode.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
24. No, you know
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:41 PM
Apr 2014

I have heard his name and I'm sure I've seen him before but SNL was my first real listen to him. I was very impressed. I will have to check that show out.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
26. You can get the first three seasons on Netflix.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:00 PM
Apr 2014

He's a very thoughtful writer. Some poignant stories in his show.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
53. I meant to look him up last weekend and forgot all about it.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:34 AM
Apr 2014

Gonna do it this weekend for sure, thanks

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
36. Dave Chappelle.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:45 PM
Apr 2014

Or, any one (or two) of the women already mentioned in this thread. I'd be happy with Stephen Colbert, too.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
38. Stephen Colbert Is CBS's #1 Choice and He Wants to Do It:
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:08 PM
Apr 2014

Interesting....

As you've probably heard, David Letterman announced he's retiring from late night in 2015, and succession talk started the second that was announced. Mashable reports today that Stephen Colbert is CBS's top choice to take over Late Show in 2015 and that he is interested in the job, according to their anonymous sources in both Colbert's camp and at CBS. The report says that Colbert hasn't had any formal negotiations with the network and has no agreement in place but that he had engaged with CBS execs about the job prior to Letterman announcing his retirement. "We’re not commenting on any rumors or speculation about succession," a CBS spokesman said, and Comedy Central had no comment. Entertainment blogger Nikki Finke has also cited anonymous sources that Colbert is the top choice.

Mashable's report adds that, although Craig Ferguson has a stipulation in his contract guaranteeing him to inherit Letterman's show (something CBS can buy him out of if they want), Ferguson has "never been seen as the heir apparent" by the network. According to the report, Stephen Colbert's Comedy Central counterpart Jon Stewart was at one point considered to be a candidate, but Stewart, who just took some time off from The Daily Show to direct his first movie, is said to be more interested in pursuing that project and other non-late night show stuff, rather than moving to CBS.

More: http://splitsider.com/2014/04/report-stephen-colbert-is-cbss-top-choice-to-take-over-for-letterman-and-he-wants-to-do-it/

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
63. IF Colbert gets it will he do it in character like on his Comedy Central show?
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 04:49 PM
Apr 2014

If so, I don't think I can watch it. I get that it's a character based on satire of those idiots on rw tv, but I don't want to watch it on late night. I found Colbert funny for about a week before the schtick got old.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
74. According to the article I linked
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 12:46 AM
Apr 2014
Stephen Colbert's contract with Comedy Central runs out at the end of 2014, leaving him wide open for the job. A date for Letterman's last show has yet to be set, but Letterman has said that it will be at least a year out from yesterday, sometime in 2015. If Colbert is selected for the job (and accepts it), he'll have to leave his faux-conservative pundit character behind and do five one-hour shows a week instead of four half-hour ones, but it sounds like he's up to the challenge. A year's a long time, and these anonymous sources could be wrong and things could change, but all intel right now points to Colbert being the number one contender to become the second host of CBS's Late Show.

Which I think would be a wise choice.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
40. I never watch Leno. I seldom watch Conan.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:22 PM
Apr 2014

…But I really like Ferguson. And his weird sidekick. Ferg has a certain warmth about him. And he's nicely goofy. And I have a soft spot for the British Isles.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
65. Chelsea Handler...here's why..
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 07:37 PM
Apr 2014

They'll look overall possibilities, and realize that a woman needs this slot, and...as a big fat bonus she'll bring her 'Ed McMahon sidekick' L'il Chuy (sp) with her. Whaddyathink?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
69. Other: Nobody.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 08:49 PM
Apr 2014

At long last, I feel that late-night comedy and talk programming is dead. Every year, the audience for this kind of programming gets smaller and smaller, the revenues shrink, the programming becomes more and more about hyping their own network/studio's content which creates a feedback loop that is killing the genre.

Kill it and move to other formats. One of the mentions out there is that CBS is looking possibly as Stephen Colbert as a replacement. I think that's half a bad idea...don't hire Colbert to host a late show, kill the late show and hire Colbert to do what he does best: scripted satire news programming.

Otherwise, let's just use it for a national news show, an evening wrap-up or to replay episodes of comedies and dramas that you're trying to scrap-up ratings for.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
71. Create a completely new show. Create something unlike what is currently on TV
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:04 PM
Apr 2014

If a host is needed please think about doing something radically different. Find an erudite, funny person and provide them with a similar group of people as support staff. Devise an entirely new concept in late night entertainment. I know I'm asking for the world from CBS. but someone did it before when they developed the Tonight Show.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
72. Create a completely new show. Create something unlike what is currently on TV
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:05 PM
Apr 2014

If a host is needed please think about doing something radically different. Find an erudite, funny person and provide them with a similar group of people as support staff. Devise an entirely new concept in late night entertainment. I know I'm asking for the world from CBS. but someone did it before when they developed the Tonight Show.

 

brooklynboy49

(287 posts)
73. No one alive can replace Dave
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 12:16 AM
Apr 2014

I've been a Letterman fan since he had an afternoon show on my local NBC affiliate 40 years or so ago. His most memorable show was his last, when he almost burned the set down!

The only comedian who would be up to the job would be Carlin.

Among the living (and young), I think Amy Schumer would make for a lot of fun evenings. Sure, she's vulgar. I like vulgar!!

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