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Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:34 PM May 2014

"Reading fiction is a complete waste of time." - Discuss amongst yourselves

Do you agree? Disagree? Why?

I'm going out for our 15th anniversary dinner. But the above was said by someone who strongly believes that reading fiction is a waste of time.

I disagree, for a variety of reasons.

But am curious about what the denizens of DU think. Will read the comments later tonight. I hope many of you post your opinions.

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"Reading fiction is a complete waste of time." - Discuss amongst yourselves (Original Post) Flaxbee May 2014 OP
Strongly disagree. Scuba May 2014 #1
No person with any sense at all can really believe that. OriginalGeek May 2014 #2
They may have some sense... Wait Wut May 2014 #4
I think you're being unfair to Spock! Coventina May 2014 #7
Touche' Wait Wut May 2014 #10
Spock is fictional? NewJeffCT May 2014 #46
I can imagine a lot of things OriginalGeek May 2014 #8
Ahhhh... Wait Wut May 2014 #11
I'm often told television is a waste of time too LanternWaste May 2014 #3
??? That's just crazy talk! Coventina May 2014 #5
Does this person read the Bible? hobbit709 May 2014 #6
LOL kairos12 May 2014 #13
Talking snakes, giants who bred with human women, etc. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #28
I find that statement kind of sad. Arkansas Granny May 2014 #9
Nope. Fiction is like stepping into a different world. Avalux May 2014 #12
I disagree obviously. Chan790 May 2014 #14
Same here. On all points. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #38
So's breathing. malthaussen May 2014 #15
That person is very treestar May 2014 #16
One of my favorite quotes... CherokeeDem May 2014 #17
well said NewJeffCT May 2014 #47
Fiction feeds our imagination. Demoiselle May 2014 #18
Absurd... sendero May 2014 #19
To me the best stories are true GusBob May 2014 #20
What an idiot. Iggo May 2014 #21
Yeah, pretty much. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #39
I'll bet they read it in a science fiction story based on that premise csziggy May 2014 #22
Well then, why waste time watching movies? RebelOne May 2014 #23
I agree. kentauros May 2014 #24
Of course I disagree. Arugula Latte May 2014 #25
I'm a prolific reader, 99% of which is non-fiction, but I still disagree. arcane1 May 2014 #26
That is a ridiculous statement. ohnoyoudidnt May 2014 #27
Depends on the book. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #29
I'm of two minds on this. In short, I think people should be more selective. JVS May 2014 #30
This person has a tendency to say provocative things, but I think generally Flaxbee May 2014 #35
Why should we be reading things that have significant literary merit? Not that raccoon May 2014 #42
For the same reason that you should eat nutritious food instead of garbage JVS May 2014 #43
Both of which are highly subjective. nt raccoon May 2014 #45
No! No! A thousand times no! shenmue May 2014 #31
Waste of time. No. Something I want to do. No Taitertots May 2014 #32
I think that sort of blanket condemnation comes off as small-minded prejudice. Paladin May 2014 #33
lol Flaxbee May 2014 #34
Glad to hear that the fiction ban is not a 100% matter. Paladin May 2014 #36
Reading fiction is a waste of time, mysteries in particular?! Rob H. May 2014 #37
Fiction? I love it! Enthusiast May 2014 #40
You know, I'm a fiction writer, but I liked Sideways' argument Recursion May 2014 #41
Sometimes reading fiction can teach us something about life. Maybe something raccoon May 2014 #44
The Tentacles Of Fiction grilled onions May 2014 #48
If he's saying everything we do must have a concrete purpose mainer May 2014 #49
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
1. Strongly disagree.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:36 PM
May 2014

Without the possibilities of fiction, we would still be sitting in caves, wishing we knew how to control fire.

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”


― Albert Einstein

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
2. No person with any sense at all can really believe that.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:44 PM
May 2014

At the risk of offending you by criticizing someone who might be a friend of yours, the person that said that has no sense.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
4. They may have some sense...
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:52 PM
May 2014

...but, they lack imagination, creativity, probably a sense of humor...it could very well be Spock.

What a weird, black, desolate hole they must live in.

Coventina

(27,093 posts)
7. I think you're being unfair to Spock!
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:57 PM
May 2014

Who actually showed quit an artistic side at times.

But, we ARE talking about a fictional character, and therefore wasting our time.....

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
8. I can imagine a lot of things
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:01 PM
May 2014

but a world devoid of fiction ain't one of 'em.

I bet even on Vulcan they had fiction. Although it may have existed simply to illustrate a lesson that needed to be learned.

And if we accept that fiction may help teach lessons, it cannot be a complete waste of time.

I would not want to party with that person.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. I'm often told television is a waste of time too
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:52 PM
May 2014

I'm often told television is a waste of time too. However, I imagine many people like to pretend they have deep knowledge what is or is not a waste of time-- which in itself, seems to be a waste of time.

Coventina

(27,093 posts)
5. ??? That's just crazy talk!
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:55 PM
May 2014

Does this person watch TV? Movies?

Unless they stick with just the news and documentaries, I call bullshit on them.

They're just saying they don't like to read.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
28. Talking snakes, giants who bred with human women, etc.
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:38 PM
May 2014

Parting the Red Sea, driving a herd of pigs off a cliff, etc.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
12. Nope. Fiction is like stepping into a different world.
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014

The imagination brings it all to life. When I'm in the middle of a really, really good piece of fiction, I can't wait to get back to it; I construct that world and characters in my head as if they're real and find myself wondering about them. It's a marvelous way to escape reality for a little while.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
14. I disagree obviously.
Wed May 7, 2014, 05:08 PM
May 2014

I write fiction.

I don't however read very much nonfiction or watch the news. I'm an escapist and reality is horrifying.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. That person is very
Wed May 7, 2014, 05:31 PM
May 2014

not sure how to describe it. Overly literal and lacking in imagination. Talk about pragmatism. That's practicality to a very high standard.

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CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
17. One of my favorite quotes...
Wed May 7, 2014, 06:03 PM
May 2014

“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies, said Jojen. The man who never reads lives only one.”
― George R.R. Martin, A Dance with Dragons

I prefer to enjoy a thousand lives.


sendero

(28,552 posts)
19. Absurd...
Wed May 7, 2014, 07:04 PM
May 2014

.... fiction/storytelling is a very important catalyst of our cultural development and shared conciousness. It's beyond vital.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
20. To me the best stories are true
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:06 PM
May 2014

But the statement that fiction is a waste of time is nonsense. Some modern fiction I find contrived and farfetched as per it's genre I guess. Gone Girl comes to mind. Very popular. Very very poorly written with glaring plot holes and a worthless ending. That was a waste of time.
But when you are steeped in reality, truth and facts that type of literature can be irritating I guess. To each their own.
Right now I am reading Poilu by Louis Barthus, a diary of a French WWI soldier. 475 pages of pure gold to me. Some might say it's not even literature. But again to each their own.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
25. Of course I disagree.
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:12 PM
May 2014

Now, change "reading fiction" to "watching professional sports" and I might change my tune ...

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. I'm a prolific reader, 99% of which is non-fiction, but I still disagree.
Thu May 8, 2014, 02:35 PM
May 2014

Fiction in general is not my "thing" but I still enjoy it from time to time. Say, maybe one fiction book per year. I suppose if I read nothing but fiction it would technically be a waste of my time, since I wouldn't be reading the stuff I enjoy most.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
27. That is a ridiculous statement.
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:11 PM
May 2014

If that is his opinion, to each his own. Does this person spend time watching tv or sports games? I do like fiction, but I have preference for non- fiction. They are both worthy in many ways. Learning new ideas in both can change your life.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
29. Depends on the book.
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:39 PM
May 2014

I read almost exclusively non-fiction, and when I read fiction, it is old classics from the 19th or 20th century.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
30. I'm of two minds on this. In short, I think people should be more selective.
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:57 PM
May 2014

Because young children need to read in order to improve their reading skill, reading is often viewed as a good thing in unqualified terms. Thus a child who is obsessed with something like Goosebumps, Harry Potter, The Babysitter Club, the Hardy Boys, etc. is encouraged to go ahead and read all he or she can in comparison to a child who grows obsessed with similar subject matter but in the form of TV or movies. And I'm ok with this because young children need to practice the mechanics of reading. As these children get older though, their reading should tend to greater sophistication. And as far as adults go, we should probably be reading things that have significant literary merit. I'm not impressed by someone plowing through all of the Tom Clancy or John Grisham novels, or reading every romance novel they can find. They might as well be watching TV.

So I'd modify it to "Reading fiction can be a complete waste of time"

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
35. This person has a tendency to say provocative things, but I think generally
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:43 PM
May 2014

this person would agree with you -- and when qualified like that, I can't say I disagree -- and am guilty of reading away a lovely afternoon with a mediocre book that turned out to not have been worth my time.

I don't think everything a person reads needs to be educational or mind-expanding or thought-provoking, and I certainly am not a book snob, but I do feel a bit of brain rot if I don't challenge myself with my reading material. During extremely stressful times, though, "junk" fiction saves my life - pure escapism.

raccoon

(31,107 posts)
42. Why should we be reading things that have significant literary merit? Not that
Fri May 9, 2014, 08:40 AM
May 2014

there's anything wrong with that.

But by that philosophy, we should only be listening to music that has significant merit.



JVS

(61,935 posts)
43. For the same reason that you should eat nutritious food instead of garbage
Fri May 9, 2014, 08:44 AM
May 2014

And yeah, you should try to listen to good music instead of music that sucks.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
32. Waste of time. No. Something I want to do. No
Thu May 8, 2014, 06:27 PM
May 2014

Some people have a hard time distinguishing between things that they enjoy/dislike and things with are a waste of time, wrong, unneeded, stupid....

I have no interest in reading fiction. Reading something that provides mental stimulation and entertainment is never a waste of time.

This person has fallen victim to the idea that their personal preferences define absolute truths about the world around them.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
33. I think that sort of blanket condemnation comes off as small-minded prejudice.
Thu May 8, 2014, 06:30 PM
May 2014


I have a few other thoughts, but I'll withhold them, on the chance the person who expressed the anti-fiction opinion is your spouse or partner, with whom you're celebrating an anniversary.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
34. lol
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:38 PM
May 2014

perceptive of you.

comment mostly geared toward the mysteries I tend to enjoy ... as this person has no problem with Shakespeare, Lord Byron, etc...

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
36. Glad to hear that the fiction ban is not a 100% matter.
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:54 PM
May 2014

Do you participate in DU's Fiction group? I'd be interested to know what mysteries you like; I'm partial to Raymond Chandler and James Lee Burke.

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
37. Reading fiction is a waste of time, mysteries in particular?!
Thu May 8, 2014, 08:06 PM
May 2014

That's straight-up crazy talk, is what that is. There a few things better than reading a good mystery to while away the hours.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
41. You know, I'm a fiction writer, but I liked Sideways' argument
Fri May 9, 2014, 07:55 AM
May 2014

"This world is full of so many things you don't know... when you read something somebody just made up...?"

raccoon

(31,107 posts)
44. Sometimes reading fiction can teach us something about life. Maybe something
Fri May 9, 2014, 08:46 AM
May 2014

that helps us personally.

For instance, I've read some works where I really identify with a character, and sometimes
it's like holding up a mirror.

I wonder if the same people who are of the opinion that reading fiction is a waste of time
watch TV dramas, reality shows, sitcoms, etc. And, as another poster mentioned, you could
say the same about movies--most movies are fiction.

(Psst: Even movies which are supposedly based on truth or historical events are often highly fictionalized.)




grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
48. The Tentacles Of Fiction
Fri May 9, 2014, 09:08 AM
May 2014

It has pushed many a student into delving further into a topic. For example a story about a butterfly collector can create enough interest into a young reader to want to learn more about butterflies.
In a world where people are stressed and they need escape a book of fiction can be just what they need to unwind.
Many books of historical fiction manage to sneak in real pieces of history on subjects that the reader may not have known before.
There are many fictional characters(especially those in series) that can seem very really and their humor or talents come through. A steady reader of a certain character may, out loud, quote one of their gems. This may give the reader a bit of their favorite uncle(if they had one).
No reading is wasteful. Even if you ending up disliking the book you can still glean something out of it. In a worst case scenario they can make great door stops!

mainer

(12,022 posts)
49. If he's saying everything we do must have a concrete purpose
Fri May 9, 2014, 09:10 AM
May 2014

then he must also agree that it's a waste of time to:
-- listen to music
-- dance
-- watch plays, TV, movies
-- visit a museum
-- visit an amusement park
-- sit in the sun and daydream

He/she sounds like a "hunter/gatherer" kind of person who believes that only those activities that pay the rent or put food on the table are useless. He also sounds really, really boring.

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