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hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 05:34 PM Aug 2014

Anyone get wild living creatures in their window wells?

I thought I'd x-post this here, since there might be a few amphibian fans/experts/interested here as well...

Let's talk "inadvertent" pets (wild) and how one cares for them...

It seems with the summer monsoons especially active in Colorado that I now have as many as three dozen Woodhouse toads of varying size from less than a half inch to probably 3 1/2 inches living in my window well. For those of you unfamiliar with window wells, they offer emergency ingress/egress to the basement, some light, and allow you to legally finish it off per building codes... Mine has a grate per the photo below, which is great for keeping baby rabbits and other larger animals out.



It seems they are contentedly eating on whatever bugs are down there--(about five feet deep well lined with large stones over the dirt) that abutts the garden window in my basement. I might have had them in previous years, but never so many I noticed... and a hole in the screen caused some to get stuck between screen and glass--which I have since rescued. I guess they are getting enough to eat down there and I spray it daily with a little water to keep it somewhat moist down there.

Yesterday, I see I have a newcomer, a black and yellow tiger salamander, which is both endangered and the official state amphibian...LOL All of them feed on bugs, which I'm happy to accommodate.

Handsome little feller, isn't he?

So here's my dilema...As happy as I am to host them, I doubt they will survive winter down there and I'd really like to find a way to help them out on their own in order to decide where they want to be. They clearly can not climb up the metal lining of the window well. I'd be happy to host all comers to my little patio garden. I even have a little toad house there underneath the various plants and ground cover. Yes, I could climb down there and spend hours trying to catch them, but I stand the chance of stepping or otherwise injuring them and besides I really want them to have the choice where they live.

I thought about putting a 2x6 board down there, but somehow I don't see them being able to cling to it to climb up....

Anyone else have these or similar little guys living in your window well? Any ideas on how to help them out?

Oh, and if anyone does, I can confirm that these little guys won't hurt you, but you don't want your cat/dog to ingest them as they do secrete an irritant... People shouldn't really handle directly either, but just wash hands if you do. They can eat a lot of bugs including mosquitoes and their larvae, so we should really consider them welcome additions to around the home.
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Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
1. Instead of a smooth board, could you find a tree limb or something with bark on it
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 06:21 PM
Aug 2014

which would make it easier for them to climb?

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
2. yeh, maybe... I'll have to root around the neighborhood to seee if anyone has downed branches...
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 06:27 PM
Aug 2014

I wonder if I bought and cut a stip--about five feet--of screening material and hung it down on the side, if they could climb up that?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. FWIW.....they burrow to escape the cold
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 06:39 PM
Aug 2014

and more or less hibernate.
We have had the same toad around the front porch for years. Somehow he manages to find enough soft dirt around the base of foundation bushes to get thru some pretty cold spells here.
Twice I found him when I was rooting around damp dirt in big outdoor flower pots.

all of our skinks, lizards, etc. disappear somewhere in the bushes/ground/woods and show up when the temps have settled, taking over the decks and porches and windows and everything from late spring to late fall.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
6. Yes.. I just think the population is too large to survive down there & it will be a bit hard to
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 06:56 PM
Aug 2014

burrow, given the layer of rock over the soil at the bottom of a window well. But, I am aware of a publication that followed a lone big toad for more than 20 years in some sort of window well in Colorado....

I think if I can afford them a way out, I won't feel badly about their survival... I' hate to have to clean up dozens of little skeletons come spring.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
11. You and your rattlers..! I guess they must have missed you too...
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 07:07 PM
Aug 2014

And a fine homecoming that was....LOL

I am not so phobic about snakes as many... I've seen my share and killed a couple copperheads, but damn, I could not go to sleep knowing there was a rattlesnake in the house. You are something!

I guess you guys will never starve though... He looked pretty meaty!

Hope you are on the mend by now.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
5. but seriously...
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 06:50 PM
Aug 2014

a 2 x 4 or a tree branch wrapped kind of loosly with chicken wire would probably work as an escape ladder

I tie a large branch to a t post next to steel livestock troughs so critters can get back out if they fall in.


MAJORLY jealous of your salamanders, not wet enough here for them, but toads we got!




by the way, that is an 18 inch saucer

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
8. He's a cutie....
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 06:58 PM
Aug 2014

I'm surprised yours escape the snakes. Actually that's another consideration, as one bullsnake down there would be a massacre that I'd like not have to witness...LOL

Kali

(55,007 posts)
10. he is big enough to EAT some of them
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 07:01 PM
Aug 2014

he is at least 7 or 8 inches long (body - probably another 4 or 5 with his legs stretched out)

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
12. I'm guessing the odds are against any of mine approaching that size, but guess I'll give 'em chance.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 07:10 PM
Aug 2014

My late Dad always had a (bizarre) fondness for toads--used to sit outside and talk to them!

So, I take it as my responsibility to find them adequate housing--

Kali

(55,007 posts)
13. they are great, I love them too
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 07:16 PM
Aug 2014

that guy comes in the house sometimes. I have found his poop in the bathroom. hopefully he is after the crickets that tend to invade this time of year.

we have at least three species - 2 kinds of spadefoots and the toads formerly known as Colorado River Toads, now called Sonoran Toads - they are the ones that get HUGE. That guy is a little over half grown, I would say - been here about 10 years, there are three of them hanging around the yard.

One year we had a small hot water leak out back and when we finally figured it out there was a toad sitting in the mud in the middle of winter.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
16. those guys are quite climbers.. I'd bet they wouldn't get stuck in my five foot wells...
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 07:31 PM
Aug 2014

The toads (and the salamander) clearly need some assist.

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