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Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:19 PM Nov 2014

One of the biggest things I've struggled with in my life is self doubt.

I know my biggest weakness is that I sometimes lack confidence and that knowledge actually feeds my self doubt. I have a tendency to think most people are better than me or smarter than me. I need to set it aside.

That's better than having the opposite problem, I suppose, from a social perspective. Then again, if I had the opposite problem, I probably wouldn't care. I'd think too highly of myself to consider that I might have flaws.

At the beginning of my speech class in college this semester, I was a nervous wreck. The teacher coached us to be bold with our speeches. I feel a lot better about public speaking now and I need to transfer that confidence into the rest of my awareness.

If you've never had good confidence in yourself it is very difficult to develop. Confidence is instilled in people as they are developing and growing up. To find yourself as an adult with almost no confidence, where I used to be, makes most of life's challenges seem insurmountable. It's not something that changes overnight if it changes at all...I am thankful this Thanksgiving that I have made progress in an area that I would have thought impossible earlier in my life.

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One of the biggest things I've struggled with in my life is self doubt. (Original Post) Tobin S. Nov 2014 OP
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, my dear Tobin! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #1
"I think your road will be much smoother now..." Tobin S. Nov 2014 #10
. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #2
Happy Thanksgving to you, too. Tobin S. Nov 2014 #11
I gained a lot of self confidence over the past few years... tridim Nov 2014 #3
I went through that in high school DFW Nov 2014 #4
Are you sure? nt Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #5
No, and that's the point! Tobin S. Nov 2014 #12
Happy Thanksgiving. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #6
Sorry, JD. I meant what was orginally here for someone else. Tobin S. Nov 2014 #9
What a great thread. Your insight into this is quite valuable, and I hope more people read it. jtuck004 Nov 2014 #7
I appreciate the kind words. Tobin S. Nov 2014 #13
Tobin, I think you've touched a nerve that many people keep hidden at their core. NBachers Nov 2014 #8
Thank you. Tobin S. Nov 2014 #14
exchange NJCher Nov 2014 #15
I don't think she's ever struggled long term confidence issues. Tobin S. Nov 2014 #17
I've had this problem all my life, and I'm in my 60s LiberalEsto Nov 2014 #16
thank you for posting that NJCher Nov 2014 #18
I am 58 and can relate marlakay Nov 2014 #20
I can last a whole month on one good compliment, to paraphrase Mark Twain. appalachiablue Nov 2014 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #21

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,588 posts)
1. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, my dear Tobin!
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:37 PM
Nov 2014

I hear you about self-doubt, oh boy, do I. I've been plagued by it my whole life...

My parents never thought I would amount to anything and that colored my own self-perception from birth on. It is a very damaging environment, to be sure.

I was lucky, though. I married a man who saw that I had many strengths and he encouraged me to develop them, to trust myself.

Perhaps we're stronger than we think we are. I know that your triumphs seem natural, that you're just doing what you're capable of. But of course, I'm seeing you from the outside.

I am very proud to know you, to call you friend. I think your road will be much smoother now...

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
10. "I think your road will be much smoother now..."
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 06:30 PM
Nov 2014

I hope you are right. I'm due for some smooth sailing.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
11. Happy Thanksgving to you, too.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 06:31 PM
Nov 2014

I hope you had lots of good stuff to eat today and pleasant company to share it with.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
3. I gained a lot of self confidence over the past few years...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:08 PM
Nov 2014

By eating well and exercising, and thus looking and feeling better about everything. People notice.

Good luck!

DFW

(54,358 posts)
4. I went through that in high school
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:30 PM
Nov 2014

Got over it early, but the memories of what it was like don't fade.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
7. What a great thread. Your insight into this is quite valuable, and I hope more people read it.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 04:20 PM
Nov 2014

The key part is that you got involved in something over your head and began to take steps to master it, regardless of your internal doubts. Dragged into it or whatever, it is most amazing to feel those changes inside, and it came from your hard work. I have seen this happen in people and animals, and that change is something to behold.

Thank you for this, and congratulations.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
13. I appreciate the kind words.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 06:44 PM
Nov 2014

These past 2.5 years have been some of the most challenging times of my life. I used to be afraid of challenges. Now I hunt them down and tackle them.

NBachers

(17,107 posts)
8. Tobin, I think you've touched a nerve that many people keep hidden at their core.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 05:05 PM
Nov 2014

Parents often think it's easier to control their children if the children don't have any idea of self-worth.

Couple that with demands for higher achievement, where nothing is never good enough.

Mix in a competitive social environment throughout childhood. Kids sense weaknesses, and will exploit them for their own social position.

That's why I quit smoking pot years ago. I seem to sink into an oblivion of hopelessness and worthlessness and self-doubt. It must be a core belief that I always get snagged on. And those feelings bled back into my daily self-image.

Somehow, I find as I get older, all that is left behind. I guess, with every failure and fuck-up I've committed, I've still survived to this point.

I spent a long stretch in Federal prison. There was a Toastmaster's group there, and the people who participated found real value. Next time I go to prison, I'll join Toastmasters (no, just kidding.)

I think your speech class is a good place for you to be.

Keep on keepin' on. Step by step. I don't know any other way.

Happy Thanksgiving! Thanks for giving us this post today.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
14. Thank you.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 06:54 PM
Nov 2014

I am a very open person. I've had a lot of struggles in life, but I'm not afraid to talk about it. I do it for self-validation, and I do it for those out there who can use some straight talk. So much of what we do in life masks how we truly feel. We are constantly keeping our guard up. It seems to be taboo to let yourself be vulnerable. Sometimes I take the mask off and let people see what is really there. I know it helps people sometimes and it certainly helps me.

NJCher

(35,658 posts)
15. exchange
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:07 PM
Nov 2014

Somebody should put together a program where people who are loaded with self-confidence can hang around with people who have none. It would be quite valuable to both people. The under-confident person would see how the confident person approaches life, and the confident person would understand the person without a lot of confidence.

As a teacher, I think it's a handicap to me (in some ways) to be very confident. I could do a much better job, I think, if I really understood what it's like to lack confidence.

I've read your posts on your speaking class before, though, Tobin, and I think you're lucky to have such a good teacher. Did she ever say whether she lacked confidence at one time?


Cher

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
17. I don't think she's ever struggled long term confidence issues.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 08:03 PM
Nov 2014

But she has been a speech teacher for a while and I'm sure she's seen many students struggle with confidence. The best things she has done for me in regards to public speaking is provided a supportive atmosphere and focused on what I've done well. The thing about becoming confidant as a public speaker is just giving more speeches. It may seem to be a bit counter-intuitive, but my confidence as a public speaker has improved with each speech I've given.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
16. I've had this problem all my life, and I'm in my 60s
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:23 PM
Nov 2014

but it's MUCH, much better since I worked on it a few years ago.

I got a notebook and started writing down my good points, if I could think of any.

At the time I was sunk so deeply in depression that the only thing I wrote was that some people sometimes told me they liked my smile.

So I forced myself to write more the next day, and more, and more as days went by. I kept it up for many months, and as my lists grew, my confidence in myself grew.

I learned that I could build my own confidence.

I also learned that no matter how many times other people tell you that you're fine, you're great, you're smart, etc., you are not going to believe these things deep don inside, until you succeed in convincing yourself.



NJCher

(35,658 posts)
18. thank you for posting that
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 08:32 PM
Nov 2014

I'm going to use it with my under-confident students.

Wow! What a discovery!

I might even have them do this in class, although they won't have to share unless they want to.



Tobin, thanks for the input on your teacher. Very interesting.



Cher

marlakay

(11,451 posts)
20. I am 58 and can relate
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 11:26 PM
Nov 2014

I have worked on my issues for many years and much better the last few years.

Part of what I did was read a book on intuitive eating and stopped all trying to diet and be thin. I am only 25 lbs overweight but I always wanted to be back to how I was most of my life until last ten years.

I am learning to accept myself as I am.

Then I have given myself, goals that I can accomplish, small goals and with each one done my confidence has gone up.

I no longer compare myself to other people thinking they are better.

During tough times in my life I read Louise Hays book on healing yourself.

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