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This painting just sold for $46.5 million (Original Post) Major Nikon May 2015 OP
It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it Brother Buzz May 2015 #1
Good drugs, I reckon Major Nikon May 2015 #2
While that may be true, whether it is or isn't art is not up to you... CTyankee May 2015 #21
Ah, a Rothko (most everything I know of art, I've learned from you) Brother Buzz May 2015 #27
I don't think those are drivers of genius. However, it is a point that has been argued CTyankee May 2015 #30
and idiocy Skittles May 2015 #36
Well, there's that Brother Buzz May 2015 #39
Rothko? Ain't life nutty? valerief May 2015 #3
Couldn't be any more nutty if it tried. LisaL May 2015 #7
It's upside down......n/t dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #4
I can't quite tell - are there five horses in that painting, petronius May 2015 #5
It has three stripes. LisaL May 2015 #9
Putin wants it. rug May 2015 #6
Maybe that's who bought it. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2015 #12
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. LisaL May 2015 #8
If you think you could have done that... hay rick May 2015 #10
I'm thinking George Zimmerman could have done that with house paint Major Nikon May 2015 #13
Actually, Jackson Pollack painted with house paint... CTyankee May 2015 #19
I suppose it beats plopping paint eggs out of one's vagina Major Nikon May 2015 #20
hmm, interesting comment...I suppose CTyankee May 2015 #22
... Major Nikon May 2015 #23
well, now, it seems that "artworld" has rendered its judgment, doesn't it? CTyankee May 2015 #25
I miss Pollack, haven't seen a piece of his up close and personal in a long time.. His works underahedgerow May 2015 #41
Yes, I think I could have done that. LisaL May 2015 #17
Seems like a lot of money for a used Ukranian flag n/t DFW May 2015 #11
well, you might have heard of another artist who liked to paint flags... CTyankee May 2015 #26
You may be assured the art world takes this very seriously... malthaussen May 2015 #14
Anyone have the phone numbers for the losing bidders? Ruby the Liberal May 2015 #15
A class of preschoolers. alphafemale May 2015 #16
If you like Pollack you wouldn't necessarily appreciate Rothko... CTyankee May 2015 #18
An educated viewer might want to revisit Simon Schama's 7 part series on Rothko... CTyankee May 2015 #24
Or Mad Men: Season 2, Episode 7 Major Nikon May 2015 #28
A reference to Rothko's Seagram's Building paintings? CTyankee May 2015 #31
One of the executives had one in his office Major Nikon May 2015 #34
It sounds to me like Mad Men is a comment on that era which I would expect would have CTyankee May 2015 #37
Liked Citizens malthaussen May 2015 #32
Is that a video? Sorry, not familiar with it... CTyankee May 2015 #33
No, those are two of Schama's books. n/t malthaussen May 2015 #35
I will look for them... CTyankee May 2015 #38
The waste of money bothers me. F4lconF16 May 2015 #29
I agree with you. I don't understand this obsession with art but I do understand its history... CTyankee May 2015 #40
Great art in itself makes for an interesting investment... For that kind of money you can hang it on underahedgerow May 2015 #42

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
21. While that may be true, whether it is or isn't art is not up to you...
Sun May 17, 2015, 02:51 PM
May 2015

it is decided by a community consisting of artists, art historians, museum directors and curators, collectors, and art critics who know the values in modern art and have a well developed appreciation of what goes into a Rothko and what its value is. But it requires an educated viewer, for sure.

Brother Buzz

(36,386 posts)
27. Ah, a Rothko (most everything I know of art, I've learned from you)
Sun May 17, 2015, 03:13 PM
May 2015

Status, Class and public perception are part of the equation, too

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
30. I don't think those are drivers of genius. However, it is a point that has been argued
Sun May 17, 2015, 03:22 PM
May 2015

for hundreds of years, going back to the question of why Florence was the flashpoint of the Renaissance. I am a fervent believer in art education starting very young in all schools, but with more funding for those who are teaching art in the schools of poor communities that struggle in poverty.

The availability of art to the general public is a major value I hold dear.

Brother Buzz

(36,386 posts)
39. Well, there's that
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:12 PM
May 2015

Actually, that painting would look grand in certain office reception areas, but I'd have to hire you to kick ass at any outfit idiotic enough to have a $46.5 million art budget.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
19. Actually, Jackson Pollack painted with house paint...
Sun May 17, 2015, 02:43 PM
May 2015

which he would fling onto his canvas which he lay flat on the floor. It is called "action" or "gestural" painting. He liked the effect he got with house paint...

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
41. I miss Pollack, haven't seen a piece of his up close and personal in a long time.. His works
Mon May 18, 2015, 04:52 AM
May 2015

are mesmerizing. Thanks for inspiring me to pay a visit to the Maeght Foundation... An incredible collection in Vence if you are ever in the South of France.

Kandinsky is another of my all time favorites. There are some pieces in the Tate that I just get lost in.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
17. Yes, I think I could have done that.
Sun May 17, 2015, 11:22 AM
May 2015

For an extra million or two, I could even throw in an extra stripe.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
14. You may be assured the art world takes this very seriously...
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:17 AM
May 2015


"Not intended to be ironic." Well, that's one way to look at it.

-- Mal
 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
16. A class of preschoolers.
Sun May 17, 2015, 10:27 AM
May 2015

A study in color my soft ass.

And this is coming from someone that actually likes Pollacks work.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
18. If you like Pollack you wouldn't necessarily appreciate Rothko...
Sun May 17, 2015, 02:34 PM
May 2015

color field and gestural painting do not necessarily dance together. Color was what fascinated Rothko (he was inspired by Matisse's "Red Room&quot . The intensity of color seemed to seize Rothko and not let him go, perhaps a factor in his alcoholism leading to his death. Rothko "saw" a color and painted it in such intensity that art writer Simon Schama has stated you cannot really turn away from a Rothko painting because “it burns the back of your neck.”

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
24. An educated viewer might want to revisit Simon Schama's 7 part series on Rothko...
Sun May 17, 2015, 03:05 PM
May 2015
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One might come away from the experience with a little more appreciation...or maybe not, but at least with an expanded perspective...

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
31. A reference to Rothko's Seagram's Building paintings?
Sun May 17, 2015, 03:26 PM
May 2015

Sorry, I don't watch Mad Men. I am guessing at the reference since the Seagram works were commissioned from Rothko and then famously withdrawn by the artist. That whole episode is also discussed by Schama in the video...

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
34. One of the executives had one in his office
Sun May 17, 2015, 04:07 PM
May 2015

He and a subordinate briefly discussed it and he admitted he bought it because he anticipated its value doubling over a short period. In other words whatever artistic value it had was irrelevant.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
37. It sounds to me like Mad Men is a comment on that era which I would expect would have
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:10 PM
May 2015

that attitude about art. Art has always been about an investment of money for some very rich, but shallow, people. As has happened in history, the hype has increased the value almost unbelievably today...

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
32. Liked Citizens
Sun May 17, 2015, 04:00 PM
May 2015

... was somewhat underwhelmed by The Embarrassment of Riches. I thought Citizens was an exceptionally good history of the French Revolution, but it is only incidentally about art.

-- Mal

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
40. I agree with you. I don't understand this obsession with art but I do understand its history...
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:31 PM
May 2015

it has always been the vanity of the excessively wealthy and not intrinsically about the art itself, except in the case of rich art donors such as Ron Lauder who want to bring art to the masses.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
42. Great art in itself makes for an interesting investment... For that kind of money you can hang it on
Mon May 18, 2015, 04:57 AM
May 2015

a wall, benefit from lending it to exhibitions or just keep it locked up and there is virtually no maintenance on it; not like an estate purchased, or a yacht which incur huge, debilitating long term investment and upkeep... and if it's this caliber of an artist it only increases in value.

I still prefer gold and real estate for investment purposes; I can wear gold and dig holes in the gardens and redecorate the real estate!

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