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betsuni

(25,468 posts)
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:09 AM May 2015

I'm haunted by a lullaby in the movie I saw yesterday, "The Night of the Hunter" (1955)

A dark Depression-era story. The river scenes after the children run away from the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing-pycho-killer, their parents and the other adults of the town too foolish or weak to help them, they journey out into the wide world as orphans. Floating down the river under the stars, the river shimmering with moonlight, the sounds of night animals in the darkness, it reminds me of an illustration from a children's book of fairy tales. The little girl sings and we know her family members are the flies in the lullaby:

Once upon a time there was a pretty fly,
He had a pretty wife, this pretty fly.
But one day she flew away, flew away.
She had two pretty children,
But one night these two pretty children flew away, flew away,
Into the sky,
Into the moon.



Has anyone else seen something haunting lately?
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I'm haunted by a lullaby in the movie I saw yesterday, "The Night of the Hunter" (1955) (Original Post) betsuni May 2015 OP
Oh God! I was involved with that play when I was a kid and it still can give me nightmares! Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #1
I had a nightmare last night after watching it. betsuni May 2015 #2
I also saw the movie. I still can't watch Robert Mitchum without thinking Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #3
I thought he had those same tatoos in "Cape Fear" -- could've sworn. betsuni May 2015 #5
He is one scary dude! Guess that makes him a good actor, but I still find him threatening... Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #6
Mitchum was very versatile actor, but he excelled at playing menacing characters Tom Ripley May 2015 #8
I'm not sure if I've seen that one, thank you! Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #9
And that was after Laughton told Mitchum to dial back... Tom Ripley May 2015 #7
It is fantastic. betsuni May 2015 #14
De Niro had them in the Cape Fear remake cemaphonic May 2015 #12
Oh yeah, that was De Niro. nt betsuni May 2015 #13
BTW, this is bringing me back... Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #4
I was fortunate to see this on the big screen in the 1990's. myrna minx May 2015 #10
Speaking of haunting lullabies in movies, from the movie Raising Arizona Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #11
The Coen's obviously love "Night of the Hunter" cemaphonic May 2015 #18
Night of the Hunter was reportedly very ahead of its time stylistically. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #21
In a lot of ways, it's more looking back stylistically than forward. cemaphonic May 2015 #24
^^^This^^^ Tom Ripley May 2015 #25
Very interesting influences. I only saw the film in the last year. Outstanding. appalachiablue May 2015 #26
Haunting, like looking in the mirror and finally seeing the truth seveneyes May 2015 #15
the end of Children of Men Skittles May 2015 #16
That movie totally creeped me out The Velveteen Ocelot May 2015 #17
Such an amazing movie cemaphonic May 2015 #19
The novel on which it is based is inspired by a true story! LeftinOH May 2015 #20
Why it's so creepy! betsuni May 2015 #23
The Dutchman StarlightGold May 2015 #22
Please read Bosonic May 2015 #27
Wut? betsuni May 2015 #28
One of the greatest movies ever. Children will abide. WinkyDink May 2015 #29

betsuni

(25,468 posts)
2. I had a nightmare last night after watching it.
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:31 AM
May 2015

Shadowy bad men chased me while I tried desperately to hide an enormous wad of money. Woke up scared, then relieved it was just a dream and there are banks and credit cards.

Rhiannon12866

(205,212 posts)
3. I also saw the movie. I still can't watch Robert Mitchum without thinking
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:44 AM
May 2015

Of those tattoos on his knuckles.

betsuni

(25,468 posts)
5. I thought he had those same tatoos in "Cape Fear" -- could've sworn.
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:57 AM
May 2015

He's perfect for the part of psycho killer!

Rhiannon12866

(205,212 posts)
6. He is one scary dude! Guess that makes him a good actor, but I still find him threatening...
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:04 AM
May 2015

There are certain actors, and he's sure one of them, that I identify with one malevolent part so much that I just can't think of them otherwise. Ralph Fiennes, who played that horrific nazi in Schindler's List, is another one. I saw that at the movies when it first came out in the early '90s and I'm barely able to watch him now.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
8. Mitchum was very versatile actor, but he excelled at playing menacing characters
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:32 AM
May 2015

In addition to his Max Cady in Cape Fear, I also recommend his performance in A Killer in the Family. It is another, but little known, classic sonofabitch portrayal by Big Bob Mitchum.

Rhiannon12866

(205,212 posts)
9. I'm not sure if I've seen that one, thank you!
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:14 AM
May 2015

I'll have to check it out. Back in the day, I mainly watched movies on AMC, since what they were showing was better than anything on network.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
7. And that was after Laughton told Mitchum to dial back...
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:27 AM
May 2015

the scary vibe a bit- "Bob, you will still want to play leading men after this picture is done"

It is a fantastic movie.

betsuni

(25,468 posts)
14. It is fantastic.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:05 PM
May 2015

And yet I hadn't seen it until now, for some reason. Glad I happened to catch it on TV.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
12. De Niro had them in the Cape Fear remake
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:06 PM
May 2015

My favorite Love/Hate callback is from Do The Right Thing.

Rhiannon12866

(205,212 posts)
4. BTW, this is bringing me back...
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:54 AM
May 2015

I remember now that the little girl who played Pearl in the play I was involved with actually wet herself onstage during the performance. We discovered that afterwards and nobody ever said anything, poor kid. I was a couple of years older and it scared me, too.

I'm not surprised it gave you nightmares, has to be one of the scariest old movies out there on so many levels. But it was only a dream, find something amusing to take your mind off it...

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
11. Speaking of haunting lullabies in movies, from the movie Raising Arizona
Thu May 21, 2015, 09:27 AM
May 2015

....Holly Hunter does an excellent lullaby rendition of the folk song "Down in the Willow Garden", which is an incredibly dark and ironic song for a lullaby (but then again, lullabies are often darker than you'd expect. Case in point: Rock a Bye Baby).

I wish I had her version on Youtube but I can't find it.

The Coen Brothers are genius filmmakers.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
18. The Coen's obviously love "Night of the Hunter"
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:11 PM
May 2015

I've spotted references to NOTH in a bunch of their movies, including Raising Arizona. "Sometimes it's a hard world for little things" is almost a direct quote.

Raising Arizona, The Big Lebowski, O Brother Where Art Though, The Man Who Wasn't There and True Grit all come to mind - I wouldn't be surprised if there are more.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
21. Night of the Hunter was reportedly very ahead of its time stylistically.
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:16 AM
May 2015

Reading about it, there was a lot more focus on visual images than most of the films of its day. Just from the clip in the OP, you could tell that to be the case.

The Coens are extremely stylistic in their film making, so I wouldn't be surprised if they took some inspiration from that film, either directly or indirectly.

On edit:

This blog piece clearly saw the connections and inspirations:

https://moviecounterviews.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/the-movie-that-haunted-coen-brothers/

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
24. In a lot of ways, it's more looking back stylistically than forward.
Fri May 22, 2015, 02:44 PM
May 2015

A lot of the visual look of the film owes a strong debt to German Expressionism, monster movies and film noir (where of course Laughton was a huge acting star). The exaggerated physical acting and the presence of Lilian Gish also hearken back to the silent era.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
25. ^^^This^^^
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:11 PM
May 2015

German Expressionism and DW Griffith were heavy influences. Laughton deliberately avoided the contemporary 50s realism of Kazan, Stevens, Preminger, etc.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
26. Very interesting influences. I only saw the film in the last year. Outstanding.
Sat May 23, 2015, 02:29 AM
May 2015

Mitchum was one of a kind, remember what an influence he was as a kid. What a talent, the voice, expression, understated cool. His wife's family was from Delmarva, had a place in eastern MD with horses where the family and boys spent time. There was an upscale Mitchum's Steakhouse in a small town, Trappe/Cambridge for years that recently closed.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
16. the end of Children of Men
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:47 PM
May 2015

after the death of Theo, Kee sings to her baby a lullaby from Ghana called 'Kaa fo', which means 'Baby do not cry' (I Googled); it is the very end of the movie

unfortunately it gets cut off in the youtube clip (she starts at 2:48)



very poignant

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
17. That movie totally creeped me out
Thu May 21, 2015, 05:14 PM
May 2015

the first time I saw it (it came on TV late at night when I was about 12). Robert Mitchum was about the scariest psychopath I've ever seen in a movie.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
19. Such an amazing movie
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:18 PM
May 2015

It's a shame that it was considered a failure in it's day and Laughton never directed again. He clearly had talent, and a really unique visual style.

And yeah, there's something magical about that river scene.

LeftinOH

(5,354 posts)
20. The novel on which it is based is inspired by a true story!
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:06 AM
May 2015

The real inspiration for Mitchum's character, "Harry Powell", was named 'Harry Powers'. And he even resembles the character Mitchum portrayed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Powers

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