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roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:05 PM Sep 2015

a very amusing story on the earliest known use of the F word :D

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oldest-f-word_55f65a3fe4b063ecbfa4b9d6


A researcher has found what is believed to be the earliest written example of the f-word.

(Caution: a certain four-letter word is used ahead, and used repeatedly.)

Paul Booth, a historian at Keele University in England, found three examples dating from 1310 and 1311 of a man known in legal documents as Roger Fuckebythenavel.

Booth said he believes Roger was not the bearer of a very unfortunate family name, but rather it was given to him derogatorily.

Historian Finds Oldest Use Of F-Word Hidden In Medieval Court Papers
It could be "fourteenth-century revenge porn."

Posted: 09/14/2015 05:09 AM EDT

A researcher has found what is believed to be the earliest written example of the f-word.

(Caution: a certain four-letter word is used ahead, and used repeatedly.)

Paul Booth, a historian at Keele University in England, found three examples dating from 1310 and 1311 of a man known in legal documents as Roger Fuckebythenavel. Booth said he believes Roger was not the bearer of a very unfortunate family name, but rather it was given to him derogatorily.

Roger Fuckebythenavele from a Chester court roll dated 8 December 1310 found in @UkNatArchives by Dr Paul Booth! pic.twitter.com/rI6q3RUtFX — Aine Foley (@AineMedievalDub) September 12, 2015

"This surname is presumably a nickname," Booth told Medievalists.net. "I suggest it could either mean an actual attempt at copulation by an inexperienced youth, later reported by a rejected girlfriend, or an equivalent of the word ‘dimwit,’ i.e., a man who might think that that was the correct way to go about it.”

If Roger actually tried to do it in the navel and someone told the world about it, the name could be "fourteenth-century revenge porn," Booth told Vice. Booth noted that Roger was before the court three times over a nine-month period, and each time his last name was spelled differently: Fuckebythenavele, Fukkebythenavele and, finally, Fuckebythenavel.

"On the first two occasions he was 'exacted' (solemnly summoned to attend court to answer a serious criminal charge, which is unspecified) and on the third he was outlawed," Booth wrote in an abstract, titled "Roger the incompetent copulator," that he posted online. "He was probably never heard of again."

As Booth told the Daily Mail, an outlaw could be "executed without trial if caught."

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a very amusing story on the earliest known use of the F word :D (Original Post) roguevalley Sep 2015 OP
I believe the family changed their name to ... GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #1
Another descendant of that family is Santorum. madinmaryland Sep 2015 #10
Ha!!! kairos12 Sep 2015 #11
Mr Booth is demonstrating a failure of imagination... malthaussen Sep 2015 #2
Crime? Well, maybe ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2015 #3
Definitely a crime in the 14th century. n/t malthaussen Sep 2015 #4
bet this gets alerted. KG Sep 2015 #5
not so far. why alert a historical fact? roguevalley Sep 2015 #7
I don't get it. Isn't that where men put their..um...thing? BlueJazz Sep 2015 #6
I think it was just the Anglo-Saxon word. annabanana Sep 2015 #8
Fornication Under the Crown of the King. panader0 Sep 2015 #9
Too bad he didn't have one of these OxQQme Sep 2015 #12

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
2. Mr Booth is demonstrating a failure of imagination...
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:18 PM
Sep 2015

... one could easily conjecture what crime Roger was accused of by his surname...

-- Mal

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
8. I think it was just the Anglo-Saxon word.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 03:41 PM
Sep 2015

When the Normans conquered England, and became the new "Nobility" the traditional 4 letter words of the vanquished became declasse and indicative of vulgarity and lack of "breeding".

Which is the "low class" word?, Shit or defecate? Fuck or copulate? Piss or urinate?

Context is everything.

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