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My heart is so broken right now. He's had 4 seizures in24 hours. Good thoughts, if you please, that he pulls through. The vet thinks it's a brain tumor.
UPDATE:
Well, I get to bring my boy home this afternoon. He did not suffer any seizures last night and seems to be responding to the phenobarbital load that the vets gave him. He had his last load at 11 this morning. Apparently he's stumbling around like a bit of a drunk from the medication, but at least they didn't have to give him any emergency drugs last night.
The long term outlook is not great, as the vets are fairly certain he has some sort of intracranial problem. But, with medications the seizures can be managed for now and we'll see how his quality of life is day by day.
Thank you so much for the kind thoughts. I'm so happy I can have him by my side tonight, even if it means I sleep on a futon mattress on the floor with him.
Coventina
(27,064 posts)I know what that's like......
snacker
(3,619 posts)and hugs.
redwitch
(14,941 posts)Poor doggie!
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)If he is an old dog, then it probably is a brain tumor. They do have anti-seizure medications and you might be able to extend his life a few months with medication. But, it will be difficult finding the lowest dosage possible to keep the highest quality of life, and you will want to do it because the drugs will dope him up.
The other option is to put down thousands of dollars for the surgery.
Hope that you can squeeze some more time out for him, because we are never really ready to let them go, even when we think we are.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)So it's likely a tumor. I refuse to do brain surgery. It's so incredibly unfair to my active, vibrant dog (he's a vizsla/boxer mix).
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)'put down' 'euthanized' 'put to sleep'
She could not lift her hind legs, and the people at the clinic, knowing that, brought a towel out and put it under her body, and she walked into the clinic..and I thought...well all I need to do to keep my poochy is to put a towel under her belly and all will be okay.
But the doc said she was suffering..and I staid with her as she died..this was 10 years ago and I am still crying!
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)Seizures in dogs are not uncommon, and may be the side effect of their getting into something poisonous. Like eating a slow worm, for example? Or paint products.
That would be the best outcome because he will recover quickly.
I am crossing my fingers for you.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)It is so heart-breaking to see their health decline.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)Perfect blood work, still ran around like a crazy puppy, chasing my neighbor's cat. Then, night of Thanksgiving, bam! Seizure number one. Then nothing. Last night, seizure number two, then during the day today, seizures three-five, and he got increasingly worse with each one. I thought one of them brought on a stroke, as he was not walking well.
The doctors understood my quality of life concerns. I will be devastated when he goes. I found him, living under a truck, a week after I had to put my 15 year old dog to sleep. I felt it was a sign that my old boy wanted me to save the helpless, mangy puppy to help heal my broken heart.
I'm sobbing as I write this. I think I need to go to bed and hope that he has no more seizures tonight and that I can bring him home for at least a little while longer.
CTyankee
(63,893 posts)I don't know your pain, but I know mine and I will tell you it was deep and it was painful.
Of course your heart is broken.
One poet said it so well "the heart breaks and breaks and lives by breaking..."
It is true and so sad.
Sending you love, my dear heart. Please take care...
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,373 posts)My thoughts are with you.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i hope you get some more time together
rurallib
(62,387 posts)may you have wonderful memories.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)It is so heartbreaking. We had to put down our Old Girl (19-year old cat) last January. I just hate that we live longer than they do. I'm sure he had a lovely life because you rescued him.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)flea- and tick-ridden, with an awful sunburn. He was about 6 months old then:
And here he is now (well from November):
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)My heart goes out to you.. I know your heart is breaking. I was recently there myself and it's the worst pain. As hard as anything I've ever been through.
Holding out every good thought for you and your darling boy. I will watch for updates with everything crossed.
catbyte
(34,341 posts)I'll keep you both in my thoughts.
mopinko
(70,023 posts)it was really hard.
my vet hates to give people bad news, but his wife usually spills the beans. he didnt want to say it was terminal. kept her going for a while so that everyone in the family had a chance to say goodbye. but she never did get her feet back under her, or her appetite back.
she was a great little dog, too.
hug him for all you are worth.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)down one of our dogs who had a tumor. She got sicker so slowly day by day that each day was the new normal.
marzipanni
(6,011 posts)My old dog had seizures when we were on a work related trip and we were delayed one day due to having to finish work there.
Our new young pup was sharing a kennel with the old dog, and when I called the boarding kennel to tell them we would be delayed they told me our older dog was seizing and they had taken him to the veterinarian (it was way before cell phones and I had no contact #)
I had a feeling the puppy was jumping up and nipping his neck trying to get him to play, and he couldn't get away from her. I hope he wasn't miserable for the three days we were gone, because the pheno didn't help him and I had to let him go when we returned the following day. He was 13 3/4, so he did live a pretty long life for a medium-large dog.
I hope whatever is wrong with your dog can be handled with medication, and he can be with you longer.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)but I'll take it. He's currently passed out, half on his bed, half on the floor. This was how little brother #2 welcomed him:
Gotta make sure he's okay.
irisblue
(32,932 posts)Without those groups and the yahoo canine epilepsy groups, Alex the Wonder Dog, most handsome Prince of North Columbus would not have lived as well or as long as he did with his idiopathic epilepsy.
Things I thought about first.....a seizure uses up a fair amount of glucose, after the post ictal pacing slows down, some preservative free breyers vanilla ice cream, just a tablespoon or 2 to do a fast glucose bump. I would soft scramble an egg or give cottage cheese when the he was back to himself.
Baby gates will limit the pacing area in your house, as well as keeping your 2 dogs separated once the sz begins. B/C I had 2 dogs with epilepsy at one time for some years, when I was at work , Duke would be in a large crate , his szs were mild and infrequent, Alexs' were worse, so I baby gated doorways, picked up all the chairs and anything else that could become an obstacle to a stumbling post ictal dog. I bought several long rugs with good gripping ability, so he wouldn't do a bambi slide and hurt himself more. I also kept a big jug of a non toxic floor wash, bucket and mop in the broom closet, so I could do a fast floor mop, if needed.
Keep a calendar/log of the times of the seizures; you will have to tweak the meds some over time, Alex had many, lots, many of his seizures between 2-4 am. Vet and I tweaked meds, so he had a 'bumper' dose of phenobarb at 10:30pm. It helped a fair bit.
The post ictal time for Alex seemed shorter when I could get him outside into the winter cold air, it seemed to work for some dogs. I learned to sleep in sweats, leave my coat next to the door, with a key in the zipped shut right pocket and have felt scruffs so I could be up and out the door within 90 seconds. Humid summer weather seemed to keep him pacing longer.
If you have questions, PM me, but I am using the libraries' computers for the next 2 weeks, so I can't always respond till the next day.
BTW, your dogs are beautiful.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)He is much better this evening, he even lifted his leg to pee (lifting his left leg, which means putting weight on his weak right side!!)! I was celebrating in the street! He has been 48 hours seizure free. And he's been acting much better.
We bought a baby gate with a doggy door for my two littler guys. All three are snoozing peacefully. The vets are optimistic that he is emerging from his post-ictal phase, slowly but surely. He may never be back to normal, we may only have him for a short time more...but I'll be grateful for having my big, sweet boy for as long as I'm able.
Thanks again. Your post made me feel at peace.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)Be religious about the time, with the dosages.
And be aware that he may momentarily lose control of his back legs because of the medication. Don't get upset. It is a sideeffect. Just call your doctor and tell her about it.
mythology
(9,527 posts)but they make every day that much better just for sharing our lives.