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Codeine

(25,586 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:02 PM Mar 2016

That moment when you discover an entire genre of music

you had no idea existed.

I love shoegaze/darkwave music; modern indie bands like Markaras Pen and Tearwave, or older artists Like Lush and Slowdive.

I also love black metal, especially symphonic stuff like Carach Angren.

BUT, I had no idea there's a whole genre called "blackgaze" that combines the blastbeats and cold, distant shrieking vocals of black metal with the "wall of melodic guitar" sound that shoegaze bands use. HOLY SHIT is this an incredible sound! All I've listened to for the last two weeks are bands like this;







I feel like I did when I was eleven and heard the first Cure album; a whole new musical world opening to me.
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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
3. That's what happened when I discovered the second wave of Prog.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 06:48 PM
Mar 2016

I was very familiar with the entire recorded output of Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, ELP, and others.

I was doing the Website for a local chain CD store in the early 2000s. That's when I discovered that there was a second wave of prog, inspired by the bands above...Spock's Beard, Marillion, Dream Theater, the Flower Kings, Jadis and more. Prog is still one of my favorite genres and while there are most certainly bands lacking in inspiration, there is so much killer stuff out there that astounds me, and I keep discovering more.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
6. I went through a period where I listened
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 07:42 PM
Mar 2016

to a lot of Marillion. I started to get into older prog (mostly early Genesis) but got sidetracked by Krautrock. I'll have to give some of those acts you mentioned a listen.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
8. Spock's Beard and The Flower Kings lean heavily on the early Genesis sound.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 08:22 PM
Mar 2016

Flower Kings also did a cover of "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway." Dream Theater is considered "prog metal"...there are overtones of King Crimson, Pink Floyd and "Ride The Lightning"-era Metallica.

Members from Spock's Beard, Dream Theater, Flower Kings and Marillion are in a "supergroup" called Transatlantic. They are more about longer "epics" but once again a lot of early Yes and Genesis can be heard in their stuff. They covered "And You And I" by Yes.

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
10. larks tongue in aspic and selling england by the pound... two of my old faves...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:00 AM
Mar 2016


I like the sweeter stuff, not the agitation stuff ... if you get a chance, i'd love to hear a couple of your favorite tracks to check out what those other bands are like.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
11. I am going to post a separate thread for you so that I don't hijack Codeine's thread
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:00 AM
Mar 2016

But based on your comment, I know exactly what to post.

If you like "the sweeter stuff, not the agitation stuff," Spock's Beard is definitely the band for you.

Neal Morse was a founding member / primary songwriter / lead vocalist. He left after their 6th album. The sound was very much Genesis / Yes. The band carried on without him. Good stuff followed but they took a couple of albums to find their way. His work in Transatlantic is also goo, but they also specialize in bombast at times...some tracks clock in at 35 minutes...but like Yes and Genesis, it is also textured, with a mixture of calm and storm.

I'll post a few things that I think you will be most likely to enjoy.

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
5. I saw Deafheaven a few weeks back at the Palladium opening up for Lamb Of God.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 07:15 PM
Mar 2016

Third on the bill behind LOG and Anthrax.

I was impressed.

A lot.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
7. I first heard them on Sirius radio a few weeks ago
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

and couldn't believe my ears. What a standout sound.

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
9. My supervisor heard them on his "you might like this" or whatever feature on Rhapsody.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 11:22 PM
Mar 2016

He knew I was going to the show that weekend and he says to me "Get there early and check out this band" and he plays me one of their songs on his phone, and it was like solid wall of sound, solid wall of sound, solid wall of sound, and then SCREEEEAAAAMMM!!! And I'm all, "Yep. That's my shit!"

So yeah, I was ready for 'em. And they did not disappoint.

Cool part was they were low on the bill so you could still walk around and stand wherever you wanted without feeling like you're playing the low post in an NBA game. I got some decent video of the first song, but I don't use YouTube so I wouldn't for the life of me know how to post it here. (And like an old man I shot it vertical, so it looks dumb...lol.)

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