Game of Thrones 7.3 "The Queen's Justice" (spoiler alert)
Daenerys holds court; Cersei returns a gift; Jaime learns from his mistakes.
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I still liked them in the show but mostly because of the books.
I think the Dorne storyline could have been done better. (in the books, as well, for that matter)
Cersei will end the Martell family line....in the show, as not all the Martells made it from the books into the show.
Theon will get justice, I think. Or kill himself.
For all his faults - a bully, and ultimately like all bullies - weak when push comes to actual shove - he has paid a huge price for his crimes and betrayals.
If he is around when Jon arrives at Dragon Stone, that will prove to be a bit tense.
I think Sam is going to decide to go to Dragon Stone. Maybe he'll already be there. He'll take a healed(?) Jorah Mormont with him.
I think Arya might have decided to ride south again. Because of what she said to Nymeria.
I hope not though.
I know good does not often prevail in the manner it should, and ugly compromises are all too often made under the banner of good...but I still want it all to end the way I want it to end. 
If Sansa betrays Jon, she must die. Likely, though - she'll survive and flourish. I still don't like her character. I simply can't. I've felt bad for her and she has been abused mightily, but I still don't like her.
The true power hub will be on Dragon Stone though. All 3 heads of the dragon will be together - and they don't even know it. Yet.
Bran and Meera need to get a move on and soon. He's got some tree-time stories to tell.
So I expect her to be the last one standing.
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..I Think She's Still Alive. It Didn't Show Her Dying. 
But why did someone want her dead?
And who was it?
I do remember Joffrey's poisoning quite vividly. Now it all comes together, and nicely too.
thanks!
On another forum someone posted before the season began that it looked Cersei was finally about to get hers and I replied that the High Sparrow thought the same thing right before she blew up the Sept of Bailor. In the space of three shows she has completely changed the landscape: gold to pay off the Iron Bank, control of the seas and screwing her brother without shame. It's good to be queen.
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I hate it when Jon Snow is called a bastard.
1 - I don't buy into the notion that children are bastards.
2 - Jon Snow isn't a bastard even by society's warped morals. (i.e. means of control)
The dragon that buzzed Jon is his dragon. Rhaegal.
Varys wants to rid himself of competition for the ear of the throne. And, he simply does not trust the religious.
Ha! Ha! "Just like you" - Have to die in a strange country. Yes! Because Varys needs to die.
No. She is NOT the rightful heir to the iron throne.
No. She is NOT the last Targaryen.
Her ignorance and her arrogance are pissing me off.
Yes, Robert Baratheon sent people to kill her. Jon was in no less danger - except for an Uncle who protected him against Robert - and at a great cost to him. Also, Eddard and Robert parted ways over the murder of children - and he voted against sending people to kill Daenerys. Both Tyrion and Varys know this - yet - they remain silent. But of course they do - it suits their purpose.
Why keep Asha/Yara alive? Alive she is a threat to Euron and Cersei has no use for her, not really.
Strategically, it makes no sense. None. Not even as a "gift" to Cersei.
Maybe she survives to fight another day. Maybe not. The show's story-line could require her survival.
The Sand Snakes and their mother are worth more to Cersei....in terms of the revenge upon revenge upon revenge of the circle-jerk revenge between the Martells and the Lannisters.
Ah, so it was Tyene Sand that was in the hold with her mother. Poor Tyene. 
I do so want Cersei to die and not by taking her own life - which is likely.
Jaime is a fool. He needs to die too.
Lannisters paying their debts simply means they get revenge or return a favor as to not owe anyone - they would rather be owed.
I hate Littlefinger. Another one that has to die.
Yes! Bran!
And he needs to speak to Jon.
If Sansa is going to run from the truth, she can never truly lead.
Sam needs to go to Dragon Stone with Mormont.
Professor Slughorn has a new Harry.
flesh eating mites (to push the joke along even more)
Casterly Rock is huge.
The Unsullied are pretending to be turtles.
...and flying turtles.
and sewer turtles.
Oops. Bye-bye ships.
Oops, twice. The Tyrells.
Well played, actually.
Thanks, Rob!
Lady Olenna is Lady Olenna until the end.
See? Jaime is a complete and utter fool.
Kind of fitting, isn't it? Poison.
At least they know it wasn't Tyrion or Sansa now. Not that it matters anymore.
Shame she didn't tell on Littlefinger though.
Guess Jaime regrets his mercy now. Idiot.
and so it ends...
Oh, yeah...I forgot that pathetic sea slug...Theon.
I hope Jon keeps to the ways of his uncle and mother (and the North - for the North doesn't approve of of incest - recall Craster's daughters) and doesn't bed his aunt. Also, the 7 Kingdoms frown upon it as well. Otherwise, Cersei and Jaime could have lived openly the whole time - and even now, Jaime is hesitant about people knowing. The Targaryens were considered different, foreign born, and above the law - Is there really peace in a kingdom when the subjects know their rulers are above the laws they themselves are expected to follow?
Yes, she is inexperienced but she is coming on a little too strong because she is in Westeros, and while I understand that, she's doing it all wrong. Not to mention how Cersei and Jaime are outsmarting Tyrion at every turn. He needs to remember who raised them all - Tywin.
Jon, being who he is, ignored her presumption and her arrogance. In fact, he schooled her in the ways of rights by conquest. Which I cheered.
Daenerys is willing to listen, learn, and change. That is a strength.
Bran knows what Sansa plans to do, I agree. That could be why she fled. But she could also turn on Bran - people who are that different inspire fear. If not outright, she could undermine him in subtle ways. So could Littlefinger.
Decide his mind is as damaged as his body. Depends on how far Sansa can be trusted and she hasn't been the most trustworthy Stark.
Meera knows too. About Jon. In the show, Meera and her brother suggested their father told them. So maybe Howland isn't needed.
If Arya returns to Winterfell, Sansa may also decide to see her little sister as she has always seen her. Which would be bad for Sansa.
Bran knows the layout of Winterfell better than Sansa and Arya is far deadlier - and she has learned to temper her sense of fairness and justice with guile.
Childhood dynamics couldn't help but come into play. They always do at family reunions.
I don't see Daenerys and Mormont ever hooking up. But I can see the North welcoming him back should he decide to be a part of his family again. He was exiled for good reason but he has earned his way back.
If the show goes with the 3 heads of the dragon, then all 3 can marry into other great houses - preferably those who were once wardens and the strongest of the houses to solidify their power. Well, of those who remain alive.
If the show allows Jon to be who he really is, I don't know that it will. Only because not everything works out like we want and the bad guys all too often get away with their crimes and the good guys all too often lose.
Speaking of the 3 heads, what if the long bolt works and a dragon is slain? Does it matter or is too much prophecy clouding reason?
We assume Bran wants to tell Jon his true story but what if he wants to warn Jon instead? Or, as well?
I think Daenerys sees in Jon what others see in him. She is intrigued, and she will root out the knife to the heart, died for his....comment.
But I, personally, don't want the two to wed.
I want Bran to expose Littlefinger's role in Eddard Stark's death, as well as Varys' role. The Lannister's' role is well known already.
I was more than a little annoyed at Sansa calling her father a fool when she was the one who ran to Cersei and betrayed her father. This was last week when Sansa said that.
Yes, she was young(er) - but Arya was that much more younger and never would have done something so heinous.
I must confess, and I always do, to a bias against Sansa. I can't quite forgive her foolish behavior that aided the Lannisters. And while Sansa admits to being a stupid girl at one time - she calls her father's decency and honor a weakness. His decency and honor saved Jon's life.
The only thing Sansa should have learned from Cersei is how not to act. From Mad King to Mad Queen - and it is obvious that Joffrey inherited his psychopathy from his mother.
Another reason Jon probably shouldn't bed his aunt. It's in her genes as well. And genes do play a role in the development of psychopathic traits. Not to discount nurture/socialization - for that can make all the difference.
I'm just talking out my ass for the most part.
I mean, other than not helping him outright escape? I mean, yeah, he was trying to start a civil war by getting the Starks and Lannisters to fight each other, but he didn't directly conspire to imprison/kill Ned like Littlefinger did. He brought Ned water while in the dungeons and convinced him to confess to treason and take the Black so that he might be spared, which was actually what Cersei intended, but Joffrey, of course, decided to have Ned executed anyway.
Was doing the Sideload Shuffle for a few weeks, but we did some fancy phone-talking with the satellite provider and now we have HBO back AND we're paying less. Lost a bunch of sports channels we don't watch and whatever channel that Cake Boss show is on all day. Good riddance.
Anyway, I know I'm late for this week's discussion, but I'm back on schedule for next week's.
See you then!