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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 12:45 PM Oct 2017

Why is Law and Order:SVU such a terrible show?

Law and Order:SVU is one of those "background" shows my wife will have on the TV while she does work around the house, so I'm inevitably subjected to it. (I know sometimes people use that excuse for hate watching shows that are so bad they are guilty pleasures, but trust me, I honestly have no desire to sit down and watch it on my own.)

And it really is an awful show. A truly awful, terrible, no good show.

But why is it such a terrible show?

Is it the bad acting?

Is it the bad writing?

Is it the bland, unengaging one-dimensional main characters who are actually nothing more than conduits for preachy, self-righteous soliloquies?

Is it the annoying, constantly blaring overly loud monotonous background music?

Is it the fact that the writers are just lazy, and they basically just photocopy a couple of high profile criminal cases and paste them together for an episode?

Personally, I think it might be that it's just not very well-written or acted, but because of its subject matter, they can't pass it off as camp.

There are police shows that are very good, such as Homicide:Life on the Street. (And the fact that SVU wasted Richard Belzer's Munch character is one more reason why I hate SVU).

Then there are police shows that are mediocre to even bad, but they don't necessarily take themselves so seriously all the time, and I can still derive some enjoyment of it from time to time. (For example, Major Crimes on TNT).

But SVU is just....ugh.

It's not even guilty pleasure bad. It's just plain bad.

EDIT TO ADD: If you are in fact a fan of Law and Order:SVU, I mean you and your horrible sense of television watching no offense whatsoever.

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Why is Law and Order:SVU such a terrible show? (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 OP
Nooooo!!! It's a great show! Pachamama Oct 2017 #1
I love that show! Siwsan Oct 2017 #2
I kinda like it. OhZone Oct 2017 #3
I'm getting really sick of the constant "how can we mess with Olivia Benson's life more?" storyline. Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #4
This. demmiblue Oct 2017 #7
Here's what you need to be watching instead cyclonefence Oct 2017 #5
This OriginalGeek Oct 2017 #18
Thanks for this rec Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #19
Oh, my, that's Amelia Pond! I will be looking for this. (That is all.) Still Blue in PDX Oct 2017 #20
Oh my god. I didn't know. I. Didn't. Know. Iggo Oct 2017 #25
I watch it all the time. Granted it has gone on for 20 years, but DK504 Oct 2017 #6
I miss the chemistry between Stabler and Benson though TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #9
it used to be a good show Skittles Oct 2017 #8
Because it's Special Violence Unit Wolf Frankula Oct 2017 #10
Special victims unit. brush Oct 2017 #32
Mt question would be, pangaia Oct 2017 #11
Lots of reasons Blue_Adept Oct 2017 #34
Odd Timing IUPACify Oct 2017 #12
Also odd timing that you joined DU to defend its honor but hey who am I to judge? Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 #13
You tried this earlier... it didn't work. demmiblue Oct 2017 #15
Who is that? What are they doing? Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #21
He didn't. Iggo Oct 2017 #28
All network TV cop shows are facist. Yavin4 Oct 2017 #14
Usually thats just clueless writers in Hollywood. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #24
It's not incompetence... it's do they want a job to pay the bills? n/m bagelsforbreakfast Oct 2017 #30
i just want the old AmandaRuth Oct 2017 #16
Perhaps you would feel better if you told us how you really feel about SVU Blindingly apparent Oct 2017 #17
Because it doesn't have Bobby Goren in it. edbermac Oct 2017 #22
The shows,with him are by far the best brokephibroke Oct 2017 #27
+1 KT2000 Oct 2017 #31
Its utter shite and cringey. I put it in the same category as Touched by an Angel. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #23
She should put on The Wire brokephibroke Oct 2017 #26
Huge The Wire Fan, but Proud liberal 80 Oct 2017 #29
I can watch it just to look at Mariska Hargitay. cwydro Oct 2017 #33
I never could stand it... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #35
I think the show has gotten a lot worse mythology Oct 2017 #36

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
4. I'm getting really sick of the constant "how can we mess with Olivia Benson's life more?" storyline.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 12:59 PM
Oct 2017

Seriously, every single week she goes through something horrible. I know that the writers are trying to show just how strong of a character she is, but at some point they have to let her be happy for at least a second.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
5. Here's what you need to be watching instead
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 01:09 PM
Oct 2017


NTSF:SD:SUV:: (National Terrorism Strike Force: San Diego: Sport Utility Vehicle), is a clandestine team of government agents working together to protect San Diego from numerous terrorist threats coming in daily from such evil countries as Mexico, Canada and Guam. This team of highly trained operatives has only one job: saving your ass so you can drive your Prius and see your movies in 3-D without worrying about living in a country run by no-good terrorists.

As with many other acronym-ed police procedurals that dominate the airwaves, NTSF:SD:SUV::'s season of 15-minute episodes is ripped from the headlines and full of suspense, action, drama, cliffhangers, yelling, passionate love-making, more yelling, death and plenty of pregnant pauses.

Thursdays at 12:15 a.m. ET on Adult Swim (Cartoon Network)

DK504

(3,847 posts)
6. I watch it all the time. Granted it has gone on for 20 years, but
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 01:09 PM
Oct 2017

it is in no way an awful show. Obviously it has lasted because rape and sexual abuse is an issue that needs to be discussed everyday.

Granted the back stories are a bit much, some of the characters a bit much, like Stabler and his dislike of women and Amaro and his anger issues and degrading women, no show on TV can resist that bitter prejudice. At least there is something that will talk about this rather than shying away from rape.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
9. I miss the chemistry between Stabler and Benson though
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 01:32 PM
Oct 2017

It just hasn't been the same since he left. I watch the old shows more than the new ones. But my favorite Law and Orders are the original (especially the ones with Jerry Orbach) and Criminal Intent.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
8. it used to be a good show
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 01:28 PM
Oct 2017

the latest episodes I have seen seem to be delving into - well, just like you described

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
10. Because it's Special Violence Unit
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 01:54 PM
Oct 2017

"In New York City, Sexual offenses are considered especially heinous. So heinous that we don't bother to try suspects, we just have our thug cops beat confessions out of them. That's the mission of the Special Violence Unit, when they're not pimping preteen girls."

Wolf

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
34. Lots of reasons
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 10:29 AM
Oct 2017

Most people tend to do music I'm sure, but I can't listen to music as it triggers too much for me.

Having HGTV on in the background while working or doing chores around the house is enjoyable. I usually do movies in the background, a nice Apple TV playlist of all the Marvel movies, and as I move in and out of the room I catch snippets of favorite scenes or dialogue and it makes me smile.

I can't have silence. It leaves me alone with my thoughts too much these days.

IUPACify

(19 posts)
12. Odd Timing
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 02:11 PM
Oct 2017

Really? With all the Weinstein/O'Reilly/Trump sexual harassment stuff going on right now you write a post about Law and Order: SVU. Just odd timing if you ask me.

BTW: I happen to like all things Law and Order. Especially SVU.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
14. All network TV cop shows are facist.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 02:18 PM
Oct 2017

They all feature a team of honest, dedicated police who use the cutting edge technology to get their man. Therefore, we should never question them or their methods.

Oneironaut

(5,492 posts)
24. Usually thats just clueless writers in Hollywood.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 08:32 PM
Oct 2017

It’s the same as shows where torture instantly works. It looks like they’re pushing an agenda, but it’s just from writing incompetence.

17. Perhaps you would feel better if you told us how you really feel about SVU
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 03:57 PM
Oct 2017

But let be known I agree with you almost completely but would have to add it treat women horribly

Oneironaut

(5,492 posts)
23. Its utter shite and cringey. I put it in the same category as Touched by an Angel.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 08:30 PM
Oct 2017

The OP describes the show perfectly. The characters are so one-dimensional, cliche, and ridiculous that they make you instantly hate the show. Everything almost always wraps up perfectly in the end - basically a gigantic middle finger to people who watched the last 55 minutes of the episode. The shows are too formulaic to be interesting.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
29. Huge The Wire Fan, but
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 09:20 PM
Oct 2017

Didn’t like season 2 as much. However, the season was needed to tie everything together.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
33. I can watch it just to look at Mariska Hargitay.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 11:48 PM
Oct 2017

She is gorgeous.

How many know that her mom was Jayne Mansfield?

Ice T is my second favorite, and Belzer too.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
36. I think the show has gotten a lot worse
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:58 PM
Oct 2017

The original Law and Order was at its best when they discussed larger issues in the context of the case. That let them get away with characters that were sort of cutouts. But then they shifted both the original and SVU to ripped from the headlines.

I also think that SVU suffers from the case matter being "worse" so it pushes to make the characters angry and push the line etc. But also the writers have to make this week's episode more traumatic than last week's. It doesn't have a sort of natural ability to put in a breather episode.

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