Music Appreciation
Related: About this forumOk, today's topic "Best guitarists still alive that are criminally overlooked"- I'll go 1st
Molly M-Effin Tuttle
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)She killed it.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)not for the masses, for the pleasure it brings.
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)Just off the top of my head, there are plenty more out there, this will be a great thread, it's always cool to check out artists you haven't heard of yet. 🎸🎸
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Thanks for the names
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)But has multiple Grammys and has been voted session guitarist of the year multiple times.
Lots of his solo work on YouTube, one of my faves is his cover of "Red House"
Keagy got religion but his work is outstanding, Hendrix said he was the best out there.
Look up Stanley Jordan on YouTube, ever see a guitar played with both hands? not like Jordan does it.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)And I have a couple of Stanley's cds
I remember Toto as well... was not a big fan back then.
But I hated Bon Jovi as well and Richie Samborra is a great player - so I 'll give it a listen
Thanks for the tips
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)On the album "Outrider" from the late 80's, a solo work.
His guitar playing on the track has got to be the pinnacle of his ability to make a Stratocaster sound like its powered by a nuclear reactor.
I kid you not, just take a listen, the studio recording is better due to the care taken to record it, the live version is ok also.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)And you picked the best track on it.
Nice
Hmm... Obscure badass Page recommendation deserves an obscure Clapton recommendation.
Check out Roger Waters' The Pros And Cons of hitchiking.
Eric plays lead on that record like he was playing to save his soul
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)In fact nearly all my music's on vinyl, over 800 mint records from 43 years of collecting.
Speaking of Clapton, on today's playlist are the Mobile Fidelity vinyl of "Slowhand" and an SACD of "Layla" by Derick and the Dominoes.
Guitars were mentioned, Duane and Eric together came to me like an epiphany.
Some days you just gotta turn it up to 11.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)If I have one now I bought it way later and it doesn't have the magnif ... I mean, young lady's bare bottom ...
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)I always thought it started that whole 80s look.
Stylized women images on monochromatic backgrounds.
Then .Miami vice added pastels et voila. 80s art
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)But Clapton does a damn good job on it, FWIW ... I still missed Gilmour though
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Jack Palance's voice over. That's the whole album...
But EC was amazing on that record
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)Twas very nice except for the flooding/storms on the north side of the islands, big problems.
But I just got back and had no music for 14 days, time to crank it up again.
Btw, I have two original Blind Faith albums with the naked too young girl, collector items.
Badge is one of my all time faves.
My stereo is calling
And it goes to 11
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)From Canada, never did go really famous but boy can he play, I've seen him with Rush in 1979 and every time I can since then.
I have a hot stamper white label promo that's been autographed.
"Putting it Straight" as far as I'm concerned it's his best.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)From the Blues Community nowadays.
I've seen him interviewed in American Blues Scene Magazine and he gets some play on Toronzo Cannon's channel.
I admit that snortin' whiskey is just about all I know...
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,569 posts)*scurrying off to find more Molly Tuttle* Fanstasic!
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)WRONG
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Just a local (Brevard Co, FL) cat who used to own a guitar shop and can really shred. Not my style of playing, but I was blown away by his chops.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)of looks and expectations
Fast fingers on that dude.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)tomp
(9,512 posts)...is underrated in terms of national exposure/record sales/air time.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Jazz and Jazz fusion guitarists had a golden age in the 70s and 80s though.
I know it was a coincidence in timing but it seemed like interest waned after Larry Carlton got shot.
But there are fabulous players toiling in anonymity in most genres. The issue is that in Jazz they could rise to the top of the global jazz scene and not be known by more than 1% of the world's population.
On the plus side it would be a very smug, self selected 1%
I'll just lay low here waiting for the Jazz heads to come after me
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)They can't get too snarky.
Now you got me going, the turntable is spinning, the amp is warming up, I got the house to myself.
And I'm digging for some Roy Clark, as you know hee haw wasn't his only gig.
Look like it's gonna be acoustic day here.
Enjoy
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)But i feel he's just about properly rated
tomp
(9,512 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,593 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)This thread is kind of a play to find something new, and this is new to me.
On my phone right now, but I will for sure google David Rawlings when i have my laptop
Fiendish Thingy
(15,593 posts)Most of his work is as her guitar player.
He has a couple of albums as the Dave Rawlings Machine.
He is the Jimi Hendrix of the arch top acoustic guitar.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)His playing is like if Norman Blake, Neil Young and Johnny Marr somehow had a baby. And Welch's songwriting (really both of them, although she seems to get more of the credit) is top notch too. All their albums are great, and they've been extensively covered by just about every Americana band there is, and more than a few mainstream country and pop musicians too.
fmdaddio
(192 posts)Great slide guitar player from little feat.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)But my tribe mates around my age love Lowell George.
Little Feat were yuuuuge around Pittsburgh when i came up.
But he passed away... Had to limit this to living players to throw some shine at the folks still trying to break through.
Didn't want another Hendrix vs Stevie Ray vs Roy Buchanan vs Rory Gallagher circle jerk to break out back here
tomp
(9,512 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,593 posts)spooky3
(34,440 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)As soon as I read this I started nodding.
Great choice.
I loved how sudden his leads and fills would break in to the song. It was almost like an ambush.
Candy-O eas especially powerful.
spooky3
(34,440 posts)EE looks about 16 here and they were playing to a hostile/unfamiliar crowd. But his playing always had just the right touchcreative, melodious, and didnt overpower the other elements.
I clicked on this thread to post about Elliot Easton. The Cars made if to the HOF, but Easton still does not get the credit he deserves!
Ohiogal
(31,982 posts)Was lucky enough to attend the HOF induction watch party at the Rock Hall. They rocked it, lemme tell ya.
spooky3
(34,440 posts)Could have been there with them.
And lucky you! I was near there in the 80s and 90s but never had a chance to see them live. I depend on YouTube!
blue neen
(12,319 posts)Wish Ben Orr was still here!
spooky3
(34,440 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)what he reportedly told others at the time, that the next "him" was:
Also, Hendrix was really that much better than ANYBODY in rock n roll and most music for that matter.
Just ask Eric Clapton, who upon his first back stage viewing of Jimi left him shaking physically and mentally.
OOPS, no Tommy is dead. Oh well, anyone who admires guitar MUST be exposed to this guy.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Criminally wasted in his big "break" playing for Deep Purple's death throes
Great solo record and then... Gone
RIP Mr. Bolin
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Saw him at Winterland
oh my
Bradshaw3
(7,514 posts)Vai makes the lists of best rock guitarists but is not popularly known.
Some may laugh at the mention of Dylan but his guitar playing during his mid-90s tours was absolutley fabulous.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,514 posts)during those concerts. He said he learned a technique from a blues guitarist (can't remember his name) that allowed him to play guitar like he hadn't before. I've seen Jimi and Stevie Ray and Keith and many others in person - Dylan wasn't to that level but he was damn good.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Also I think Billy Gibbons is not recognized beyond the group hits by most non players
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Nice choice
kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Just saw him open for Clapton in LA this past Sept. Jimmie Vaughan was the 1st act, Clark far surpassed him.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Eric Clapton, Santana, Steve Winwood & Gary Clark Jr. Tickets at Hyde Park - London
Eric Clapton, Santana, Steve Winwood & Gary Clark Jr. from Hyde Park - London in London, GL on 07/08/2018 1:00PM
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Actually considered going! Sold out unfortunately! Damn!
lunasun
(21,646 posts)kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)the ability to play multiple genres so well.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Yes, all rockers should listen to Mike and learn.
His fills - especially the way he comes in and out of a chorus should be required study for guitar players.
"there are only a handful of guitarists who can claim to have never wasted a note. Mike Campbell is certainly one of them"
Rolling Stone Magazine, "100 greatest rock guitarists"
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)Caught her band at Wintergrass a couple years ago, and was an instant fan. Apparently, she and her dad used to come up and play some of our local jams (Seattle) when she still lived on the West Coast. Some of the regulars said it was amazing seeing this tiny teenage girl who could flawlessly execute her own transcriptions of Tony Rice and David Grier solos.
I don't know that I'd call her overlooked though. She just plays in a somewhat obscure genre. But she's been winning awards, and getting a lot of media exposure and endorsement deals, and is generally pretty well-known and respected in the acoustic flat picking world. Same story for anyone outside of the mainstream though. I wouldn't call Bill Frisell, Julian Bream or Buckethead overlooked, even if they're not as famous as someone like Clapton.
Anyway, less talk and more Molly:
Guitar + banjo duet with Allison de Groot. I could geek out for hours about all the cool rhythmic and dynamic interplay going on here, but I won't bore everybody. It's just gorgeous though:
Cool take on an old chestnut. Showing off her vocal chops:
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)So, I was blowing a bit of smoke - Knowing that I can get away with it because Blue Brass rides in the same bus as Polka as far as popular music goes...
Hey - POLKA HAS ITS OWN GRAMMY! So sit the hell down.
even more obscure is Adam Hoskins, the lead player with Pokey Lafarge's various bands starting with the South City 3.
Pokey himself knows his way around a fretboard but Adam is such a fine player, even though he looks like a dude from that 70s show
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)Sturgil Simpson's guitarist is another crazy talented player that's a bit overshadowded by his frontman.
Cary
(11,746 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)I never heard of this man.
That second vid in particular hit my buttons, even though I can't understand a single word he sang.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Thanks for the tip.
I'll be mining this thread for musicians to chase around the innertubes so finding a name I never heard is a true gift
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Bass player........
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)ever since the Crossroads appearance with Jeff Beck.
She is a monster basist
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Zoonart
(11,855 posts)King Crimson.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)But is he overlooked? He has a killer reputation - as far as I know
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Master slider.....
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Every member of that band is a monster with a following 3 generations deep
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Chipper Chat
(9,678 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)mbusby
(823 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)I suppose that there are amazing classical musicians that I would never hear of.
I admit to being a heathen in that regard. Other than when my Grandma took me to see the Pittsburgh Philharmonic ( When Andre Previn was conducting) I don't have much background in this...
She plays that thing like a harp
dogknob
(2,431 posts)Acoustic:
Electric (and more):
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Richard Criminally overlooked in an OP in the lounge.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1018&pid=1063637
So life really does work in cycles.. We are back to the start
dogknob
(2,431 posts)yonder
(9,664 posts)Richard Thompson is criminally underrated as both a guitarist AND a songwriter
BluesRunTheGame
(1,614 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Never heard Amos play before. Nice hat tip to Wes Montgomery here, very impressive.
BluesRunTheGame
(1,614 posts)Nothing else like it in pop music.
yonder
(9,664 posts)Long time fan here. He's still busy performing. Paul Simon pretty much swiped Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme from him those many years ago.
Here's a post from a few weeks ago:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181076332
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)But is he over looked?
His recent albums were very well received and he has topped the Blues charts several times... I know I know, the Blues charts are not exactly the Billboard top 10 but still.
Can't fault his technique tho - he can play
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Black Country Communion band is one hell of band in itself.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Just saying that he has an audience - a national audience - that many on this thread would kill to get.
He's had 11 albums hit #1 on the Billboard Blues chart.
SO even though I didn't claim he was Just a "Blues Guitarist" and I really don't consider that a demeaning description in the least - He is a known and famous Blues Artist
Hell I think Blue and Evil is one of the best heavy rock records in the past decade
But I ain't gonna describe him as a Led Zeppelin style heavy metal artist based on that song no matter how much I love it.
Cary
(11,746 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)I am ashamed to admit that I'd never heard it.
Suddenly the live record's title "Shut up and play yer guitar" makes better sense
John Fante
(3,479 posts)bif
(22,697 posts)Those guys kick some serious ass.
sweetloukillbot
(11,009 posts)Watching her Coachella set and she's making some seriously cool noises. She's related to Tuck Andress from Tuck & Patti, so guitar chops must run in the family.
And I don't know if they're still a couple, but Annie's SO, Carrie Brownstein from Sleater-Kinney, is another great guitarist.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Also, Nils Lofgren, currently of Wilco ...
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Alonv with Booker T and Duck Dunn changed what A.erican music sounded and Felt like.
sure Booker T &the MGs were good but those 2 guys were Stax records.
Urge For Going
(18 posts)Ian Thornley from Big Wreck and Thornley is absolutely fucking incredible. He uses slide a lot. He is certainly a bluesy, melodic hard rocking guitarist. His music is timeless.He is the lead guitarist, singer, song writer.. his voice..... but we're talking about guitar so here you go;
Meet the man;
Albatross
Control (the end of the song is about a 2.30 minute solo
Look What I Found (from his debut album 1997)
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)I started this thread for just this reason. Learning about players that I don't know.
I will for sure chase this cat around the tubes because he has serious chops...
Urge For Going
(18 posts)I'm glad you enjoyed! He's well known in Canada, but not really anywhere else. He's a proud Torontonian, and never tried to break into any other market. Just a guy who seriously only cares about music. Here's his instagram. https://www.instagram.com/thornicus/
lots of videos of him just jamming. He absolutely just loves playing guitar. And also just a nice down to earth guy.
Head Together and A Million Days are two of my new favourites, its from the album Albatross.. which I had only started getting into in the past year. Its a great album, and all new to me. But my very favourite from the album is Control... damn... I crank that shit full blast in my car (I have a nice stereo), and I throw it on repeat and scream my lungs out I have literally lost my voice to that song! And practically given myself whiplash during that SICK riff ahaha!
The mid/late '90s Canadian rock scene was super awesome back in the day, and there were a bunch of artists who toured together, and got huge radio play in Canada. I'm not sure if many American's know what I am talking about, but during the late 90s early '00s we had some real serious talent here. Many of those bands have recently gotten back together -- Big Wreck disbanded for a decade, as Ian went solo for two albums. So here are some Canadian rock bands to give a listen to... bluesy hard rock has always been big here.
I'll throw down some other bands here you'll probably enjoy as well...
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)So of course I listened to Toronto radio - Because Canadian radio sucked much less than corporate USA radio.
So I love The Tragically Hip and Blue Rodeo and Red Rider and the Rheostatics.
Then I left.
I don't know big wreck
Urge For Going
(18 posts)Alrighty then...
Best to check these guys out when its night time.
Time for something totally different. This isn't the type of music you bring to a party. This is some deep shit, dark and mysterious, philosophical. This REALLY ROCKS. Its often really intense and dramatic. Some songs have orchestral elements to it. Think of the vibes of Zeppelin's Kashmir, Since I've Been Loving You, and The Rain Song.... that's The Tea Party, and so much more. They never wrote about trivial stuff. He's a true poet, and one of the most gifted guitarists ever. He once met Jimmy Page, and Page asked him about a few of his chords... thats pretty damn cool. He knows how to play the most obscure stringed instruments, and he is a world traveller and spent a lot of time in Morroco... it reflects in his music, and philosophies. I really dig the eastern influence in his music.. because it is soooooo gooood.
Drawing Down The Moon
The Halcyon Days
The River
Gyroscope
Underground
Samsara
This MuchMusic concert was in '98, and was excellent. They pretty much refused to play big festivals because they are a band who doesn't sound right on a hot sunny day. They are a band who thrive in small intimate venues, or as headliners at festivals when all the daylight disappears. They often do an acoustic set, with sitars and other eastern instruments.. so this concert was cool because it was meant to be an intense experience, rather than a rock concert.
The Tea Party Intimate & Interactive MuchMusic (1998)
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Hes played on tons of hits
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)Ohiogal
(31,982 posts)Here she is with John Lee Hooker.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)She is still kicking ass
Bayard
(22,062 posts)Love Bonnie.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)I had never even heard of her before this thread, but I'm an instant fan now - her technique is INSANE!
Troy Grady, the man who interviews her in that first clip, has his own instructional channel, and is a beast of a guitarist himself. Watch some clips - he mimics the playing styles of everyone from Al Di Meola to Steve Morse perfectly.
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)At fifteen or sixteen.
She is amazing now. Glad I could introduce her to a few more people.
Bayard
(22,062 posts)I like him much better with The Eagles, than solo.
Neal Schon with Journey
Prince
The Polack MSgt
(13,187 posts)But Prince seems properly - or perhaps even over rated. Yes, he was a great musician who played piano, sang, played bass and guitar.
Please, don't think I'm downplaying his skills - he could play, but (here comes the heresy) he was not even the best guitarist in Purple Rain, Jesse Johnson was.
He was a musical genius. A great songwriter performer singer and multi-instrumentalist. A generational talent no doubt, but this thread is focused on guitarists specifically and I believe that Jesse had better chops then and his solo work has been genius level fret-work for these last 30 years.
Prince is not overlooked under rated or - sadly - alive.