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PuppyBismark

(594 posts)
Tue May 28, 2013, 06:28 PM May 2013

The June Competiton Theme is HDR Images.

I will post a submission thread about June 12th. Use this time to go out and shoot or rummage through your images to find "that shot." Any subject matter is appropriate as long as the image is an HDR image.

HDR stands for High Dynamic Range. To create an HDR image, one must take multiple shots of the same scene at different f stops and use the appropriate software to combine all shots into one final image.

To learn more, I would invite you to go to http://www.hdrsoft.com/ which is one of the vendors of HDR software. In addition Adobe Photoshop and NIK Software market software for HDR processing.

Use of Photoshop or other computer image manipulation is also encouraged. All the general rules for past competitions will apply.

To see some examples of very good HDR images go to: http://www.hdrsoft.com/gallery/index.php

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The June Competiton Theme is HDR Images. (Original Post) PuppyBismark May 2013 OP
of interest... handmade34 May 2013 #1
well then... Pharaoh May 2013 #2
WOW - I'm going to be more than fascinated Mira May 2013 #3
lots of free software available handmade34 May 2013 #5
Great! Thanks. Mira May 2013 #6
"live and learn" handmade34 May 2013 #7
Agree with your point about "forced creations" groundloop May 2013 #14
Bowing out of this one. a la izquierda May 2013 #4
It is really not that difficult, but does require software PuppyBismark May 2013 #8
Okay, I changed my mind. a la izquierda May 2013 #15
Proud of you. Mira May 2013 #16
im in for sure... i love hdr rdking647 May 2013 #19
I'm in too. MattSh Jun 2013 #32
This could be fun as a learning experience! ManiacJoe May 2013 #9
At first I was thinking Crepuscular May 2013 #10
it can be done w/o a tripod. its just a little tougher rdking647 May 2013 #17
photomatix gets good reviews handmade34 May 2013 #11
im not a photomatrix fan rdking647 May 2013 #20
Nik is the best Stevenmarc May 2013 #22
Would a single image shot in RAW but 'developed' at different exposures be considered HDR? groundloop May 2013 #12
That works as HDR and is a common method. ManiacJoe May 2013 #21
I used GIMP and a plugin to combine the three images, but that has just changed. alfredo Jun 2013 #34
So... handmade34 May 2013 #13
this could be fun... i love HDR (sometimes) rdking647 May 2013 #18
When it's used correctly it's a great tool. Stevenmarc May 2013 #23
I guess the best use is to recover shadows and highlights. alfredo Jun 2013 #38
I tend to use it Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #41
All I am doing is bracketing, then combining. If I get one shot that is in the goldielock zone, alfredo Jun 2013 #43
Because Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #45
That's a good idea. I think I will try that with some existing images. alfredo Jun 2013 #46
Hush now. You'll scare me off from entering. Solly Mack Jun 2013 #39
Actually Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #40
That's better! lol Solly Mack Jun 2013 #42
I'm going subtle. I don't care if I win or lose. I just like taking part. alfredo Jun 2013 #44
Just go for it! Mz Pip Jun 2013 #47
I'll be sitting this one out. Blue_In_AK May 2013 #24
but.... handmade34 May 2013 #25
It's great enough in real. Blue_In_AK May 2013 #27
Not really a fan of HDR edbermac May 2013 #26
Subltle is (IMO) the way to go with it groundloop May 2013 #28
Agreed MattSh Jun 2013 #31
More Links to Software Information - Some Free dballance May 2013 #29
My iPhone shoots HDR. Mz Pip May 2013 #30
Here is one created with Nik Collection/Aperture dballance Jun 2013 #33
HDR black and white OK? Richard D Jun 2013 #35
Ordinarily I would be trying and learning this Celebration Jun 2013 #36
I'll give it a lick and a promise. Solly Mack Jun 2013 #37
Deadline day... Earth_First Jun 2013 #48
NIK vs. Aurora HDR Max-Charles Jun 2017 #49

Mira

(22,380 posts)
3. WOW - I'm going to be more than fascinated
Wed May 29, 2013, 09:46 AM
May 2013

watching this contest unfold.
In general I'm open to learning new things. In particular I am not fond of most of the images that are done this way, and consider many of them contrived. Many look to me more like forced "creations" than photographs as I understand the basic medium.

But then, that's just my taste, and I'm open to have my mind changed or my horizon widened which is why I am going to be watching with interest.

Since I barely understand the process and have never done it I am all but positive that my first efforts won't be submittable

As I understand it I need to buy software to do this?!


groundloop

(11,518 posts)
14. Agree with your point about "forced creations"
Thu May 30, 2013, 11:27 AM
May 2013

Many of the examples of HDR I've seen include a sky full of clouds and landscape (pasture, mountains, building, etc.) that is all bright and cheery looking. That just doesn't feel right to me when viewing those images.

PuppyBismark

(594 posts)
8. It is really not that difficult, but does require software
Wed May 29, 2013, 03:57 PM
May 2013

If you have a fairly new version of Photoshop, you have the tool to do it. It requires a camera that can bracket exposures and you should use a tripod. Follow the tutorials in http://www.hdrsoft.com/ to learn more about it.

I would like to know who plans to enter. If we don't get any interest, I can change the topic.

Regards,
PuppyBismark.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
9. This could be fun as a learning experience!
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:13 PM
May 2013

There are two sides to the HDR world: (1) those looking to create realistic looking images, and (2) those wanting to create the grungy and/or artistic images. The problem usually comes in where folks in camp 2 were trying for camp 1.

Note: The output of the HDR software is the input to the rest of the post-processing work-flow.

Slight correction on the "how-to". Changing the f-stop is bad in that it messes up the depth of field between the shots. You want to change the shutter speeds instead.

Crepuscular

(1,057 posts)
10. At first I was thinking
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:43 PM
May 2013

that this was way past my pay grade, never done anything along these lines before and I was planning to sit this one out but then I decided, what the heck, I'll break out of my curmudgeonly shell and give it a whirl. First lesson learned is that using a tripod will be essential, otherwise the final image is going to end up slightly blurry. Using some free software I gave it a shot but I'm pretty unimpressed with my initial attempt. Going to be big learning curve I suspect but sometimes it worth getting out of a rut and trying something new.

Hopefully things will improve with more practice.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
17. it can be done w/o a tripod. its just a little tougher
Thu May 30, 2013, 03:03 PM
May 2013

one hint is shoot wide angle,and if you camera allows it set the moto drive for high speed continous mode to reel off the shots in a hurry

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
11. photomatix gets good reviews
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:14 AM
May 2013
http://photomatix-pro.en.softonic.com ...haven't tried it

I haven't found anything that works for me yet... Luminance tended to reduce my pixels which made it impossible to use... I am re-installing Photoshop on my PC so maybe that will work

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
12. Would a single image shot in RAW but 'developed' at different exposures be considered HDR?
Thu May 30, 2013, 11:19 AM
May 2013

After combining the developed images using GIMP, photoshop, etc. of course.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
34. I used GIMP and a plugin to combine the three images, but that has just changed.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 10:39 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sun Jun 2, 2013, 11:57 PM - Edit history (1)

I have found a bit of free software called, HDRist (for OSX). I that does a better job of HDR. I then export it to GIMP for touchups.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
13. So...
Thu May 30, 2013, 11:24 AM
May 2013

Last edited Thu May 30, 2013, 05:56 PM - Edit history (1)

having serious troubles getting Photoshop (my PC is failing) downloaded the free Photomatix (leaves a watermark but just to play; no matter) and playing... took a quick photo (3 to be exact) from my front door

(alas, my beloved Elm is dead )


without processing

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]



HDR with processing

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]



OK, so I finally got Photoshop to work and processed same photos in HDR... the product

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
18. this could be fun... i love HDR (sometimes)
Thu May 30, 2013, 03:04 PM
May 2013

it can make a good shot great (or make a great shot shit)

when im shooting landscape id gues si shoot 70-70% of them planning on HDR,and then i see which will really benefit from it after i download them

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
23. When it's used correctly it's a great tool.
Thu May 30, 2013, 04:49 PM
May 2013

Unfortunately I see too many that use it like glitter on a pig, with completely overcooked results.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
41. I tend to use it
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:42 PM
Jun 2013

not necessarily for recovery but as part of a preemptive strike. I know I'll be in HDR land when I can see that a shot has to be bracketed but even then I don't see HDR as a one button, final solution but part of the workflow that will be a layer of the final image.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
43. All I am doing is bracketing, then combining. If I get one shot that is in the goldielock zone,
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jun 2013

why bother with making it HDR?

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
45. Because
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:54 PM
Jun 2013

I tend to use it as a layer and brush it in at certain opacities in areas where I want to pop a bit more detail. At the end of the day you really can't tell that I ever used it, it's a little smidgen of salt to the plate, I don't pour the whole shaker on it like most people do.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
46. That's a good idea. I think I will try that with some existing images.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jun 2013

I just now darkened a sky using that technique. I put the neutral over a dark and "erased" the lighter sky at about 20% opacity. I need to practice, but I see how it can be useful.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
39. Hush now. You'll scare me off from entering.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:04 AM
Jun 2013

I don't expect my results to be all that great. I'm not very good at it.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
40. Actually
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jun 2013

That might be a good thing, LOL. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that subtle isn't going to win the day with this competition, just go for it.

Mz Pip

(27,439 posts)
47. Just go for it!
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jun 2013

So far I've manage to create 2 pieces. Subtle they are not. My first couple of attempts were pretty ghastly. I left the manual at home and am hacking my way though it.

I might just go with an over the top outlandish piece just for the heck of it.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
24. I'll be sitting this one out.
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:20 PM
May 2013

I've got too much to do with my vacation photos, not to mention finishing the house stuff, plus I'm not really a fan of HDR. It'll be fun to see what the rest of you do.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
27. It's great enough in real.
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:30 PM
May 2013


I can't do it. I didn't shoot RAW images and I didn't do three different exposures of each. It's just not my thing. But, as I said, it will be fun to see what everyone else does.

edbermac

(15,937 posts)
26. Not really a fan of HDR
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:16 PM
May 2013

Looks too fake to me, I would be very subtle if I used it, to the point that it wouldn't look like an HDR image.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
28. Subltle is (IMO) the way to go with it
Fri May 31, 2013, 09:39 AM
May 2013

The image I'm working on which I think I might submit probably won't stand out as being anything other than a normal photo.

It sure is taking a lot of time to do what I thought was going to be a simple image though. Oh well, I have an excuse to play with something I've only done a few times before.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
29. More Links to Software Information - Some Free
Fri May 31, 2013, 04:43 PM
May 2013

Here are some links to HDR software reviews and a link to free software. I downloaded Luminance HDR since it's free. I haven't had time yet to go out with the tripod and take photos. My Nikon D40 doesn't do auto-bracketing so whatever I end up using will need to be able to do alignment adjustments. That's probably the case for most of us.

Free software (my favorite kind):

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-high-dynamic-range-hdr-software.htm#Quick_Selection_Guide

Reviews of other software:

http://captainkimo.com/hdr-software-review-comparison/

http://www.hdrlabs.com/tools/links.html

Mz Pip

(27,439 posts)
30. My iPhone shoots HDR.
Fri May 31, 2013, 11:30 PM
May 2013

At least it says it does. I'll have to figure this out. I've played around with it some with my Canon and Photoshop. I'm willing to give it a try again.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
33. Here is one created with Nik Collection/Aperture
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:26 PM
Jun 2013

The NIK collection looks pretty dang good. I watched the intro video on YouTube (an hour long) that covered all six tools. Neat stuff for not too bad a price.

Bridge Crossing Columbia River between Portland, OR and Vancouver, WA and dock on the OR side. WA is in the distance.



This is 0 photo, or the middle one of all the exposures. What the auto on the camera did.

Richard D

(8,752 posts)
35. HDR black and white OK?
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 10:27 AM
Jun 2013

I personally love using HDR. Glad to see a contest around it.
A horribly overused and abused technique that when done with subtlety can make some great images.

Celebration

(15,812 posts)
36. Ordinarily I would be trying and learning this
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 06:48 PM
Jun 2013

But I have lots of family in town visiting, and I am up to my ears in diapers, LOL. I did just download some free software, though. I don't like overprocessed HDR at all but I will try anything to improve landscapes. So I like the theme, and would learn this but for my situation this particular month. Can't wait to see the results!

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
48. Deadline day...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:04 AM
Jun 2013

I'm sitting this one out but boy am I excited to see what eveyone came up with!

Good luck! I cannot wait!

Max-Charles

(1 post)
49. NIK vs. Aurora HDR
Sun Jun 18, 2017, 01:48 PM
Jun 2017

Google is no longer investing money into NIK development, so I consider this photo editor dead. Personally I prefer [link:https://aurorahdr.com/|for processing HDR images. However, before finding this software I used to edit pics in Machinery HDR.

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