anyone use pixoto?

[rdking647]

i just signed up for it. it looks intriguing so far,but its way to early to tell

[dballance]

1. That looks really interesting.

Their short blurb says the "Player" retains the copyright to their images but grants them a license to display it. That is a site where I'd really read the TOS first before posting though. I'd read what that license grants them rights to do very carefully. I'm really cynical and suspicious though so maybe that's just me. If I ever take a really great photo I want it to be mine and get credit for it when it shows up on the cover of Life

Some good photos there.

What's their angle though? How are they making money?

On Edit:

I briefly reviewed their TOS. When you upload you give them a perpetual (forever) license to use your images royalty-free. You can take the images off their site but they still have them and a right to use them. If you put your images in their "Market" then it gets even better https://www.pixoto.com/market-terms.

I've never tried to sell my images so I don't know if their terms are standard or not. But before you put anything in their market I'd check that out with an attorney first. Looks like lots of people are doing it but that doesn't make it a good thing. Like my mom used to say "A million flies on shit doesn't make them right. It's still shit." Yes, she was colorful.

[MichaelSoE]

2. crikey!

first off .. i merely went to the home page ... then to buildings and then landscapes ... it looked like alot were HDR. this is no country for an old man like me. it kind of rubs me the wrong way. sure you need a decent initial image to start with but it has gotten to the point where all someone has to do is click something in one's software and you are a skilled photographer. kinda like paint by numbers.



i'm not a luddite but it is to the point where many people are so enthralled by hocus pocus technology they have no concept or appreciation of true talent. don't even get me started on the dreck that passes for music (the popular hit music). even food ... many people consider nuking a stouffer's is cooking.



and I have a bug up my butt about stock photography. when they (the stock agencies) started to proliferate in the 80's i knew it would be a death knell for many working photographers. why hire someone to create when you could merely pay some middleman. many of my peers started submitting work to the agencies and it did basically nothing to add to their bottom line. it only made the agencies rich.



end of old man rant

[ManiacJoe]

3. The usage terms started off good.

This part is actaully better than most sites:

You retain the copyright in any User Content you post on the Site. Pixoto neither has nor wants any ownership of your Content. However, by uploading and/or posting any User Content to the Site, you grant Pixoto a perpetual, nonexclusive and royalty-free right to use the User Content and the name that is submitted in connection with such User Content, as is reasonably necessary to display the User Content, rank the content using ImageDuels, provide the Services and to facilitate, at Content Owner's direction, the license of Images or the sale of Products on the Site.

Unfortunately, the next paragraph undoes all the preceding goodness:

The license granted to Pixoto includes the right to use your User Content fully or partially for promotional reasons and to distribute and redistribute your Content to other parties, web-sites, applications, and other entities, provided such Content is attributed to you in accordance with the credits (i.e. username, profile picture, photo title, descriptions, tags, and other accompanying information) if any and as appropriate, all as submitted to Pixoto by you.

[Stevenmarc]

4. I honestly

don't get why anyone would bother, I'm not really seeing a payoff.