Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

TexasTowelie

(112,140 posts)
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:40 AM May 2019

Is a $586,000 Fine a Bit Steep for Chopping Down Trees?

Owing to a commitment to social equality, Nordic countries calculate certain fines by income. That way, low-earning individuals don’t have their lives ruined by a parking ticket and the affluent don’t regard tickets as a minor tax on doing whatever the hell they feel like. That led to a notorious $58,000 citation for speeding in a 50-mph zone in Helsinki.

Here in California, people routinely drive 85 miles per hour as they burst out of the Robin Williams Tunnel on their way to Wine Country, but once they get there, they’d better not cut down a tree. CBS reports that a Sonoma couple, Peter and Toni Thompson, were fined $586,000 for cutting down a dozen trees, including a 180-year-old oak. It happened on 34 acres of land near Bennett Valley that was protected by a conservation easement through the Sonoma Land Trust, and they were well into their renovation (so to speak) when their neighbor ratted them out for removing what turned out to be 3,000 cubic feet of debris without a permit.

One wonders if they’d had any face-to-face contact, because that’s a lot of beeping from heavy earth-moving equipment as it shifts into reverse.

The Santa Rosa Press-Democrat quotes the remarkably livid judge in the case, who said the Thompsons “demonstrated an arrogance and complete disregard for the mandatory terms of the easement.”

Read more: http://www.sfweekly.com/news/is-a-586000-fine-a-bit-steep-for-chopping-down-trees/

4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Is a $586,000 Fine a Bit Steep for Chopping Down Trees? (Original Post) TexasTowelie May 2019 OP
sounds OK KT2000 May 2019 #1
Good for me too... abqtommy May 2019 #4
Should have been more... 2naSalit May 2019 #2
No. The douchebags are appealing, BTW. Auggie May 2019 #3

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
1. sounds OK
Fri May 10, 2019, 04:34 AM
May 2019

What selfish people. They did not care about the conservation easement, just what they wanted.

A woman down the street had her grandson cut down some trees in the middle of the night - trees that are critical to stabilizing a cliff. But darn it - they were blocking her view. They had to pay a fine but the homeowners are stuck trying to replant.
People like that woman and this couple make me sick.

2naSalit

(86,572 posts)
2. Should have been more...
Fri May 10, 2019, 05:06 AM
May 2019

they also put the property up for sale at several million$... the fine was obviously not large enough. They should have their personal freedom challenged at the very least.

Latest Discussions»Region Forums»California»Is a $586,000 Fine a Bit ...