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AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:03 PM Mar 2013

No more toll takers at Golden Gate Bridge



SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Drivers approaching the majestic Golden Gate Bridge will experience something new for the first time in 76 years: no human toll collectors.

The toll takers were removed in favor of cheaper and faster electronic transponders, and a camera system photographs every license plate that comes through, mailing an invoice to each motorist who doesn't prepay.

Those who fail to pay will receive warnings and could ultimately have a hold placed on their vehicle registration at the California Department of Motor Vehicles.

In addition to saving money, the move is expected to improve traffic flow on the majestic span that opened in 1937.

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No more toll takers at Golden Gate Bridge (Original Post) AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 OP
Hasn't the bridge been paid for over and over again itsrobert Mar 2013 #1
I was once told AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #2
Heard the same thing. CincyDem Mar 2013 #4
I've heard the same. Enourmous task. pinto Mar 2013 #6
yap, it is... AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #8
Wow. Great shot. pinto Mar 2013 #11
The toll also supports public transportation ... Auggie Mar 2013 #3
This is mind-numbingly hostile to occasional users (especially tourists) Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #5
Really chilling? Your license plate is already a public record and prominently displayed. pinto Mar 2013 #7
Where the car travels and when, kept in a database is invasive. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #9
Dallas, TX tollways use this, However, out of state vehicles itsrobert Mar 2013 #10

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
1. Hasn't the bridge been paid for over and over again
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:05 PM
Mar 2013

even with rehab work? Also, doesn't gas taxes go towards maintaining the roadways? Why the toll?

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
2. I was once told
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:08 PM
Mar 2013

That it takes an entire year to repaint the golden gate bridge, and by the time they finish it, they have to start again. That was told to me by a SF chief building inspector. Not sure if its really true, but I am willing to take his word on it.

CincyDem

(6,346 posts)
4. Heard the same thing.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:34 PM
Mar 2013

Friend in SF told me there's a couple painters that have served their entire 18-20 year careers just "painting the 'Gate" day in and day out.

Very Sisyphusian.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
5. This is mind-numbingly hostile to occasional users (especially tourists)
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:47 PM
Mar 2013

but the GG transit authority is expert at that strategy. From a privacy standpoint it's really chilling that they're photographing EVERY license plate and storing the data. But hey, they're saving a few bucks by cutting labor costs (or are they?---all depends on how much it actually costs to pursue the scofflaws.)

pinto

(106,886 posts)
7. Really chilling? Your license plate is already a public record and prominently displayed.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:30 PM
Mar 2013

I don't see any invasion of privacy. I'd be interested in seeing the labor costs breakdown, though. And the increased efficiency data, fwiw.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
9. Where the car travels and when, kept in a database is invasive.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:49 PM
Mar 2013

I haven't seen any reference to how long the authority plans to keep the data nor how they plan to secure it. Have you? They probably plan to keep it indefinitely because it's useful for resolving payment disputes, and perhaps to inform future pricing structures based on usage level. If that's the case, it's also going to be a gold mine for investigators and data miners who are trying to track specific individual's movements. Unless the GGTA is prohibited from doing so you can bet that they'll be selling it.

Yeah, I know. Why should I care if I have nothing to hide?

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
10. Dallas, TX tollways use this, However, out of state vehicles
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:41 PM
Mar 2013

slip through the process, because it's an enormous task connecting to other states databases and billing the drivers. Many out of staters drive the tollways for months and not pay.

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