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Related: About this forumCalifornia plastic bag ban heads to Jerry Brown
The ban, the subject of years of debate, was one of the most heavily lobbied issues in the final days of the legislative session, with back-and-forth votes this week. The Senate approved the measure 22-15 on Friday.
The measure could be politically difficult for Brown, a longtime champion of environmental causes but a relatively moderate Democrat, especially on issues of concern to business.
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http://www.sacbee.com/2014/08/29/6665958/california-plastic-bag-ban-heads.html
Hope he signs it; our governor has a lot of thinking to do in the next few weeks...
tularetom
(23,664 posts)How am I going to clean out the cat box without a plastic grocery bag?
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,534 posts)You might be able to buy them from Amazon, for instance.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)In the old days we never had a litter box because any cats we had were outside most of the time.
But two of these guys were babies that we found wandering around in the road after their mama got smooshed by a car so we didn't have the heart to let them out. They're now 15 years old and have spent their entire lives inside. Maybe I can hoard enough plastic bags to last the rest of their lives.
Or we might be able to find some at the dollar store.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)sell boxes of plastic bags.
Or use paper lunch bags - they usually hold a scoop patrol load.
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Cleita
(75,480 posts)between our poo and their poop? I don't use the clumping litter, just the ordinary stuff.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)with the poo.
But with 3 cats they pee so much I have to use the clumping litter and I'd be afraid to dump that stuff in my toilet because it sets up pretty solid.
Besides, we're on a septic tank and I don't want to plug up my leach field.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I also have a septic tank. If you get a throw away paper, you could just wrap the clumps in the newspaper and throw in the trash. that what I did when I had three cats in a travel trailer.
roody
(10,849 posts)meti57b
(3,584 posts)Some cats have something called toxoplasmosis. Sewage from toilets is disposed of through sewers that dump it in the ocean. Some ocean wildlife, like baby walruses, are sensitive to toxoplasmosis, and can die from it.
New laws were considered in California to control this. However, Some state officials figured out they can claim it is against the California State Fish & Game law which can levy 5-figure fines for it.
If you check your bag of cat litter, you will find a warning, not to dump it in the toilet. It ususally does not put it so plainly. It usually gives the name and number of the legislation.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)petronius
(26,598 posts)that we still get a lot of bags - bread, newspaper, fruit/veggies, magazine mailers, etc ... plenty to match the output of our little kitty, at least...
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Or you can use small trash bags (I get them by the box of 20 at 99 store). Sandwich baggies would also work.
I stopped using them years ago. Really, it's a small adjustment when you consider how many animals won't be killed by them in the ocean.
procon
(15,805 posts)Its taking me awhile to get in the habit of bringing my own bags, and I sometimes I still forget them. Worse, I've run into problems at several stores. Everything from being stopped by store security, to disgruntled checkout clerks who make sure I knew how annoyed they were with my motley assortment of shopping bags.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,534 posts)SunSeeker
(51,523 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I hope he signs it. We have just too many plastic bags littering our neighborhoods. On the other hand, stores should offer less expensive alternative reusable bags because some of them are charging $4.99 for a single bag! At least State Bros' reusable bags are pretty, sturdy, and only $0.99.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)to do the bag ban, I think the state's lawmakers should at least arrange it to where customers are given free reusable bags. Right now, people basically have to pay for something that used to be free (either by having to buy reusable bags somewhere or being charged 10-20 cents extra per bag at checkout). That may not seem like much money to pay, but to some people it means a lot, especially those of us who don't have a job and are on a fixed income.
Another problem I see is that reusable bags can gather bacteria (especially when carrying something like meat around), so they need to be washed (unlike plastic and paper bags), and that also costs money. One more thing I want to add here is that some people actually save their plastic bags for use around their homes. For example, I used to use plastic bags for my trash can in my bathroom because regular garbage bags were too large for it. Now I can't even do that anymore because of the local plastic bag ordinance that took effect earlier this year.
I don't like the bag ban and believe there are less inconvenient ways to solve our environmental concerns, but we'll see how this plays out.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)But people on welfare depend a lot on "freebies" they get in passing and multi-use items. As it turns out, plastic bags have a LOT of uses!
I really missed plastic bags from the grocery store over the last couple of years because I did not have a direct cash income for larger garbage bags.
I do try to separate my garbage and compost, and I'm conscious of the coming global warming apocalypse. I just wish someone realized that people without a direct cash income still need plastic bags for stuff, lol.
pinto
(106,886 posts)roody
(10,849 posts)and it is great.
antiquie
(4,299 posts)Single-use plastic bags will be banned starting July 1, 2015 from California supermarkets
On July 1, 2016, the ban will extend to convenience and liquor stores
Gov. Jerry Brown on Tuesday fulfilled a promise by signing a measure that will phase out single-use plastic bags from checkout stands at California supermarkets, convenience stores, liquor stores and pharmacies.
This bill is a step in the right direction it reduces the torrent of plastic polluting our beaches, parks and even the vast ocean itself, Brown said in a statement. Were the first to ban these bags, and we wont be the last.
This is a compromise, Brown said during the debate. Its taking into account the needs of the environment, and the needs of the economy and the needs of the grocers.
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