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TexasTowelie

(111,940 posts)
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 06:44 AM Jul 2017

Hawaii Judge Exempts Grandparents And Other Relatives From Trump Travel Ban

A federal judge in Hawaii has put new limits on the Trump administration's travel ban on people from six mostly Muslim countries, allowing travel for grandparents, grandchildren, and other family members of people in the United States.

U.S. District Court Judge Derrick Watson's order Thursday prevents the administration from enforcing the travel ban against grandparents, grandchildren, brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and cousins.

In his ruling, Watson took aim at how the administration defines a close familial relationship, writing, "[T]he Government's definition represents the antithesis of common sense. Common sense, for instance, dictates that close family members be defined to include grandparents. Indeed, grandparents are the epitome of close family members. The Government's definition excludes them. That simply cannot be."

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in June that the ban on people seeking to travel to the United States from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen may not be enforced against those who have a "bona fide relationship" to people in the United States. The Trump administration said that would include parents, spouses, fiances, sons, daughters, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law or siblings.

Read more: https://knpr.org/npr/2017-07/hawaii-judge-exempts-grandparents-and-other-relatives-trump-travel-ban

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Hawaii Judge Exempts Grandparents And Other Relatives From Trump Travel Ban (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jul 2017 OP
It's not unusual for grandparents to raise grandchildren Rhiannon12866 Jul 2017 #1
Very true! I personally know 2 sets of grandparents who... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #3
I have to say that I was closer to my (paternal) grandmother than to my mother Rhiannon12866 Jul 2017 #4
Good! That grandparents (or others mentioned) have ever 'not' been considered close family... WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #2

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
3. Very true! I personally know 2 sets of grandparents who...
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:15 AM
Jul 2017

raised their grandchildren and quite a few others, including my children's grandparents, who were heavily present and helping in the lives of their grandchildren.

With divorce and often both parents needing to work, grandparents often step in to help instead of sending kids off to daycare, etc.

Rhiannon12866

(204,779 posts)
4. I have to say that I was closer to my (paternal) grandmother than to my mother
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:20 AM
Jul 2017

She certainly made a lot of major decisions about me and my Dad went along with them. And I could definitely tell her things that I couldn't discuss with my parents.

And it's true in other countries, too. Grandparents care for the children when the parents are working. I remember being told that when I was in Russia...

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
2. Good! That grandparents (or others mentioned) have ever 'not' been considered close family...
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:09 AM
Jul 2017

by our government absolutely amazes me.

My own grandparents didn't live close to me growing up but my one grandmother was definitely a positive influence and she inspired me from a distance. My daughter's grandparents all lived very close and were very active, supportive and influential in their lives much to their, and I believe society's, benefit IMO.

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