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ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:25 AM Nov 2012

"The only state they lost in David Plouffe's battleground map was North Carolina"

(said Chucky Toad)




The ONE black, ugly, smarmy, filthy sad-ass mark on this whole night was THIS and that freaking, smirking Duke Power tool for governor here. YUCK.

WTH is the MATTER with this state?

THE REST OF THE COUNTRY moves #FORWARD - but North Carolina SLAMS it into REVERSE?

Dumb.

Dumb.

Dumb.

Arrrrrggggghghhhhhhh!
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"The only state they lost in David Plouffe's battleground map was North Carolina" (Original Post) ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 OP
As we discussed at our Tyler's gathering...where are the good, promising Dems for office? NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #1
He's a smarmy CROOK - like Mittens, wouldn't show his tax returns. ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #4
Yes, we need to find some good Dems. nclib Nov 2012 #9
+1000000. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #11
I don't know what is wrong with this state Kookaburra Nov 2012 #2
We tried... karmaqueen Nov 2012 #3
When they got oil rigs obstructing their beach view and fracking wells ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #5
Ummmm, maybe. Island Blue Nov 2012 #17
Fine. Slap that smelly rig right in their front yard... ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #21
I'm on Pleasure Island, You? n/t karmaqueen Nov 2012 #29
yeah barbtries Nov 2012 #6
Yep. We're now the Mississippi of the mid atlantic. mmonk Nov 2012 #7
Same here - gerrymandered to death ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #12
the gerrymandering marions ghost Nov 2012 #18
+1000. nc4bo Nov 2012 #27
Slim Pickins marions ghost Nov 2012 #28
I'm sorry ProfessionalLeftist. nclib Nov 2012 #8
Well, crap struggle4progress Nov 2012 #10
I'm beyond disgusted. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #13
One HUGE thing not on your list: TONS of outside money ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #14
Agree re: overturning Citizens United. But huge money... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #16
I dont think that's the whole story. marions ghost Nov 2012 #20
I agree with that. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #25
I think the rich retirees skunked us marions ghost Nov 2012 #19
Awhile ago there was an interesting article in the N&O about... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #24
From this corner of the state: WNC RobertEarl Nov 2012 #15
Tell you what...These Repigs will tie things up in NC so it's impossible ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #22
Were we younger? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #23
It could be done marions ghost Nov 2012 #26
3 1/2 years later RobertEarl Jun 2016 #30

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
1. As we discussed at our Tyler's gathering...where are the good, promising Dems for office?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:27 AM
Nov 2012

somehow the state needs to find some people who can win. Mr. I smell something bad-face McCrory....oh boy. Ellmers. Yikes.

Well, we will have lots to discuss in our future gatherings...

nclib

(1,013 posts)
9. Yes, we need to find some good Dems.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:41 AM
Nov 2012

And a message. It's like the democrats have given up in this state. We need people running who can motivate the young people to vote.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
11. +1000000.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:35 AM
Nov 2012

Lots to process and think about, for sure. I hope that NC Dems get it together quickly so it can start moving in the right direction in two years.

karmaqueen

(714 posts)
3. We tried...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:29 AM
Nov 2012

The group we were working with are wonderful. The people of NC need to pull together and fight these crazies on the local level..We can do it When they start drilling off the coast they may change their mind.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
5. When they got oil rigs obstructing their beach view and fracking wells
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:32 AM
Nov 2012

in their back yards and can't vote early anymore and their water is poison...maybe then some people will grok a clue. Maybe...ugh.

Island Blue

(5,815 posts)
17. Ummmm, maybe.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:41 PM
Nov 2012

I don't know though. I live on the coast and Republicans here are always spouting off how they want to "Drill baby, drill!".

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
7. Yep. We're now the Mississippi of the mid atlantic.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:29 AM
Nov 2012

I'm one of those gerrymandered voters as well. Though I live in Raleigh, I'm now grouped with people from Sampson and Wayne Counties. My votes for legislature and the US House of Representatives no longer count.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
12. Same here - gerrymandered to death
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:50 AM
Nov 2012

They broke up David Price's district into 4 or 5 districts, combined them (or at least mine) with a bunch of others from other counties. My vote is shit here. And I had David Price as my congressman for YEARS - liked him and voted him back in every time. Now I've got some dude I never heard of.

I HATE Repigs.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
18. the gerrymandering
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:50 PM
Nov 2012

the Kochs

the vote suppressors

the corporate exploiters

ALEC

fundies

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____what else?


The NC Repugs had a whole lotta outside help.

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nclib

(1,013 posts)
8. I'm sorry ProfessionalLeftist.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:38 AM
Nov 2012

It hurts. I try not to think about it too much because it hurts. I think about all the people here who worked so hard to get out the vote and I hurt for them. And it's the redistricting...makes me feel so helpless and hopeless.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
13. I'm beyond disgusted.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:13 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:09 PM - Edit history (1)

What are the reasons?

--Weak economy, high unemployment, and negligible organized labor
--Dumbasses who think we'll magically become energy independent with fracking?
--Racism
--Gerrymandering
--Billy Graham and his "biblical principles"
--Rethuglicans capitalizing on Democratic "scandals"
--Growing senior population thanks to what must be financially-sound retirees pouring into the state (based on all the luxury retirement communities I'm seeing around...)

What else needs to be added to that list?

If Dems don't get ahead of the voter ID requirements that will be coming into play, this state is finished.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
16. Agree re: overturning Citizens United. But huge money...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:30 PM
Nov 2012

does not always equal victory, as we see from some of the nationwide races. There is just something especially mean-spirited about some North Carolinians (Amendment One is a prime example...). Mean-spirited and COMPLETELY brainwashed by religion. It's tough to stomach.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
20. I dont think that's the whole story.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:01 PM
Nov 2012

There are a LOT of "fiscal conservatives" in and around Charlotte, in the Triangle, the Coast, and other pockets....

They are NOT brainwashed by Christianity--they're brainwashed by the God of Mammon.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
25. I agree with that.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:35 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:25 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm tired/deflated and didn't post clearly -- it's the social issues where I'm seeing the mean-spiritedness and fundie brainwashing. The Virginia Foxx mentality...

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
19. I think the rich retirees skunked us
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:58 PM
Nov 2012

for the most part. Many left other places in order to live here with lower taxes and more rightism.

Not many want to come out and say that, but I see that you did and I agree. I saw all the Rmoney signs in the wealthy neighborhoods, and I know a few professionally.

They skunked us big.

I don't know what we can do about that.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
24. Awhile ago there was an interesting article in the N&O about...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:27 PM
Nov 2012

NC retaining young people after they get their degrees from our outstanding universities (Rs just might destroy the UNC system, too). That trend worries me: Less young and more old (I'm middle-aged, so don't pounce, anyone!).

Well, at least the Wake Tech bonds passed... and overwhelmingly.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
15. From this corner of the state: WNC
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:18 PM
Nov 2012

What has happened is that the Dems are all fighting amongst ourselves. The old Dems hate the new Dems and the feeling is mutual.

Liberals are the scourge and the conservatives are to blame.

None of the people who ran in the primaries campaigned for the party's candidate in the general. What we have is a party of individuals who are only for themselves. It is as if they are ashamed to be Democrats, and in a weird way makes me ashamed to be a Democrat.

Oh well at least I have you'ins to commiserate with.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
22. Tell you what...These Repigs will tie things up in NC so it's impossible
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:35 PM
Nov 2012

for any Dems to ever get into office here anymore. We WILL be another Texas or Mississippi. Red-state sewer. As I've said:

NC is finished. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I can hang in here until I can retire and get the hell OUT.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
23. Were we younger?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:43 PM
Nov 2012

The time for a unified and cohesive Democratic party is now.

Call it the New South Dems and base it around Obama and other liberal leaning members of the party.

Harass the reds and make it so that every vote they make comes home to haunt them.

In two years take back the legislature. It could be done.

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