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Oh so you voted to ban gay marriage in North Carolina? (Original Post) ProfessionalLeftist May 2012 OP
The law also bans cohabitation PDJane May 2012 #1
How can they ban cohabitation? I mean, what will they do if they fine 2 (or more) people uppityperson May 2012 #2
Oh, yes. They can. PDJane May 2012 #3
It took my parents a long time to be ok visiting their cohabitating kids. uppityperson May 2012 #4
No it doesn't. FBaggins May 2012 #5
It can't really. We have Fair Housing Laws. I'm a REALTOR. mmonk May 2012 #6
I was merely pointing out that there are ways to remove rights from couples. PDJane May 2012 #7
You said it "bans cohabitation" FBaggins May 2012 #8
the amendment doesn't dsc Jun 2012 #12
Came up recently? FBaggins Jun 2012 #13
ok some questions ... littlewolf May 2012 #11
Ugh, that makes me sick. WorseBeforeBetter May 2012 #9
Not all of us in NC voted for this CRK7376 May 2012 #10

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
1. The law also bans cohabitation
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:50 AM
May 2012

which will really be helpful to children of unmarried parents and a bunch of other things.

It was a really, really stupid decision by a bunch of really, really ignorant voters.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
2. How can they ban cohabitation? I mean, what will they do if they fine 2 (or more) people
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:56 AM
May 2012

living together in sin? How is there ANY way to enforce that?

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
3. Oh, yes. They can.
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:59 AM
May 2012

Housing rules, for starters. Refusal to grant children of common-law unions any rights. There is always something 'they' can do. I remember a time when a man and a woman who weren't married couldn't rent apartments, buy a house together.....it is quite possible to do something. Mind you, it will manage to disrupt a lot of lives in the process but that's not a concern, it seems to me.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
4. It took my parents a long time to be ok visiting their cohabitating kids.
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:20 AM
May 2012

Then they wouldn't sleep in the same house because....we might have sex and weren't wed! Eventually they got over it.

I can see not renting/selling to cohabits, having some stupid ways. I keep thinking we can't go back but we do in places. I was amusing myself thinking of neighborhood watches calling 911 to report cohabiting people. Sirens blaring, pulling up, tasers drawn, "down, on the ground you sinners". But it isn't actually very funny at all. sigh

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
5. No it doesn't.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:08 AM
May 2012

It's certainly more far-reaching than many who voted for it realize, but it doesn't (and couldn't) ban anyone living with anyone else.

What it could do (depending on court rulings) is keep that relationship from being recognized as anything more than cohabitation (two people who happen to live in the same residence without any formal relationship).

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
6. It can't really. We have Fair Housing Laws. I'm a REALTOR.
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:48 AM
May 2012

There can be no discrimination based on race, religion, national origin, sex, disability, familial status,

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
7. I was merely pointing out that there are ways to remove rights from couples.
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:28 PM
May 2012

Part of that is that couples who are not married can be denied joint insurance coverage, their children can be denied support payments and legal parentage....trust me, there are ways that this can be done.

The law, as it is written bans all but same-sex marriage, and there are interesting ways that this can be applied. Don't tell me it can't happen. It can.

It's a dangerous precedent.

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
8. You said it "bans cohabitation"
Fri May 11, 2012, 03:36 PM
May 2012

It doesn't and can't.

That doesn't mean it's right... and it doesn't mean that the amendment doesn't harm people (including well beyond the LGBT community)... it just means that you got it wrong in that specific regard.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
12. the amendment doesn't
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 10:12 PM
Jun 2012

but there is a law on the books banning cohabitation. It came up recently when a sheriff fired an employee who was cohabitating and used the law as justification for having done so.

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
13. Came up recently?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:20 PM
Jun 2012

NC's cohabitation law was ruled unconstitutional six years ago (and that was the case involved).

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
11. ok some questions ...
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:34 AM
May 2012

joint insurance ... if offered by employer .. this law
can not touch that ... period ...

support payment ... again if you fathered the
child ... you can be made to pay support for that
child ...

legal parentage .. again if your name is on
the birth cert. it is yours ... the law doesn't touch
that ...

there are bad things about this law ...
but these are no the ones to fear ...

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
9. Ugh, that makes me sick.
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:17 PM
May 2012

Especially since I chose to live in this state. Amendment One: wrong on every level imaginable.

CRK7376

(2,199 posts)
10. Not all of us in NC voted for this
Wed May 16, 2012, 11:53 AM
May 2012

lousy piece of crap legislation. Even many of us living far outside the major urban areas voted against it. At least I voted against it as did my wife and son #1. Son #2 and daughter still to young to vote....

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