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ashling

(25,771 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:49 AM Apr 2015

Texas woman invokes ‘religious freedom’ argument to fight $2000 fine for feeding the homeless

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/texas-woman-invokes-religious-freedom-argument-to-fight-2000-fine-for-feeding-the-homeless/

The citation carries a potential fine of $2,000. When she goes to court on June 23, she said, she will argue that she should be allowed to continue sharing her food because it is a valid expression of her faith under the state’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

“One of the police officers said, ‘Ma’am, if you want to pray, go to church,’” she told WOAI-TV. “And I said, ‘This is how I pray — when I cook this food and deliver it to the people who are less fortunate.”

Despite the ticket, Sheever plans to continue handing out food in the weeks leading up to her court appearance.

“You can’t just turn away from your neighbor when they’re in need,” she said. “We don’t do that in San Antonio.”
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Texas woman invokes ‘religious freedom’ argument to fight $2000 fine for feeding the homeless (Original Post) ashling Apr 2015 OP
Good for her.. AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #1
Take that Texas! leftofcool Apr 2015 #2
Oops looks like she missed the memo Kalidurga Apr 2015 #3
Exactly. If she wants to express her *tolerance*, she should move to a different state. nilram Apr 2015 #6
"Sorry, lady. Fake "religious freedumb" is only for bigots and haters. No good deeds allowed." blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #4
+1 2naSalit Apr 2015 #5
So why is it illegal to feed the homeless? cui bono Apr 2015 #7
Because criminalizing the poor means profit. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #8
Republicans must think feeding the poor equates to feeding stray cats. procon Apr 2015 #12
Exactly ashling Apr 2015 #15
I always say 'Prayer is Action' -- so I see this truly as her form of prayer tomm2thumbs Apr 2015 #9
So many rail against the "No True Scotsman" fallacy when people wonder how one can be BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #10
She's following what her religion teaches her Novara Apr 2015 #11
Who are the bible toting Christians that made this law? newfie11 Apr 2015 #13
Living in the Wasteland of the Free ashling Apr 2015 #17
Boy does that nail it!!!! newfie11 Apr 2015 #18
While there are homeless that congregate in that park Gman Apr 2015 #14
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #16

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. Oops looks like she missed the memo
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:56 AM
Apr 2015

Religious freedom is just for people who want to express their intolerance without question or without the penalty of law.


PS I think she should win her case.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
7. So why is it illegal to feed the homeless?
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 02:08 AM
Apr 2015

I've seen headlines about this but never really looked into it. What's it to anyone if someone wants to help people eat?

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
8. Because criminalizing the poor means profit.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 02:45 AM
Apr 2015

How else do you explain a $2000 charge for it? Our police are corrupt, through and through. Unfortunstely, the employment class has to criminalize everything in our current system in order to monetize everything.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. Republicans must think feeding the poor equates to feeding stray cats.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 08:18 AM
Apr 2015

If someone puts out free food they will hang around the area and soon more will come. I take it as Republicans don't want to face the real world results of their their political policies so they opt for the usual ostrich solution of outlawing poverty. If they can't actually see poor, hungry people then they must not exist in their perfect Randian utopia.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
15. Exactly
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 10:51 AM
Apr 2015

And many make no bones about it



S.C. Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer Compares Helping Poor to Feeding Stray Animals

"My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals," Bauer said during a town hall meeting, as the Greenville News reported over the weekend. "You know why? Because they breed. You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better."


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sc-lt-gov-andre-bauer-compares-helping-poor-to-feeding-stray-animals/


This GOP Congressman's Solution to Homelessness Involves Getting Eaten By Wolves

Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska) has a different idea. It involves wolves. Specifically, releasing grey wolves into the districts of 79 of his peers in Congress who had recently called for greater protections for the endangered species.

From the Washington Post:

"How many of you have got wolves in your district?" he asked. "None. None. Not one."

"They haven’t got a damn wolf in their whole district," Young continued. "I’d like to introduce them in your district. If I introduced them in your district, you wouldn’t have a homeless problem anymore."


http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2015/03/don-young-homeless-wolves

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
9. I always say 'Prayer is Action' -- so I see this truly as her form of prayer
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 02:46 AM
Apr 2015

I hope she wins this and then some. People can sit in a pew and put their hands together or they can get out and put their hands to work -- sounds like her plan is the latter.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. So many rail against the "No True Scotsman" fallacy when people wonder how one can be
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 04:44 AM
Apr 2015

a hateful, intolerant Christian. But I guess you just know one when you see her. Wear your guns in public because gawd but get a fine for feeding the hungry.

Novara

(5,838 posts)
11. She's following what her religion teaches her
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:43 AM
Apr 2015

As opposed to the bigots who use religion as a shield to be hateful and intolerant, the very opposite of what their religion teaches them.

I hope she not only wins, but I hope the media picks this up as what it is - REAL religious freedom - and I hope they shout it from the rooftops. But of course, those who use religion as an excuse to discriminate won't be shamed.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
13. Who are the bible toting Christians that made this law?
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 08:46 AM
Apr 2015

Treat the poor and homeless like stray dogs? Feed them and they won't go away?

I don't recognize my country anymore and I'm worried where we are headed.

How can we be so evil!

ashling

(25,771 posts)
17. Living in the Wasteland of the Free
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 02:04 PM
Apr 2015

Living in the wasteland of the free...

We got preachers dealing in politics and diamond mines
and their speech is growing increasingly unkind
They say they are Christ's disciples
but they don't look like Jesus to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

We got politicians running races on corporate cash
Now don't tell me they don't turn around and kiss them peoples' ass
You may call me old-fashioned
but that don't fit my picture of a true democracy
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

We got CEO's making two hundred times the workers' pay
but they'll fight like hell against raising the minimum wage
and If you don't like it, mister, they'll ship your job
to some third-world country 'cross the sea
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

Living in the wasteland of the free
where the poor have now become the enemy
Let's blame our troubles on the weak ones
Sounds like some kind of Hitler remedy
Living in the wasteland of the free

We got little kids with guns fighting inner city wars
So what do we do, we put these little kids behind prison doors
and we call ourselves the advanced civilization
that sounds like crap to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

We got high-school kids running 'round in Calvin Klein and Guess
who cannot pass a sixth-grade reading test
but if you ask them, they can tell you
the name of every crotch on MTV
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

We kill for oil, then we throw a party when we win
Some guy refuses to fight, and we call that the sin
but he's standing up for what he believes in
and that seems pretty damned American to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

Living in the wasteland of the free
where the poor have now become the enemy
Let's blame our troubles on the weak ones
Sounds like some kind of Hitler remedy
Living in the wasteland of the free

While we sit gloating in our greatness
justice is sinking to the bottom of the sea
Living in the wasteland of the free
Living in the wasteland of the free
Living in the wasteland of the free

Gman

(24,780 posts)
14. While there are homeless that congregate in that park
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 08:58 AM
Apr 2015

that park was also notorious for prostitution several years ago. The city cracked down on the park and the prostitition problem cleared up. That said, this will be interesting.

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