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Related: About this forumQuixotic Plan to Amend U.S. Constitution Passes Texas House
After about half an hour of debate Friday, House lawmakers passed House Joint Resolution 79, by Rep. Paul Workman (R-Austin). The resolution requests that Congress convene a convention of states to consider amending the U.S. Constitution to require a balanced budget. Though little more than a huffy paper protest, the Legislature is fond of such exercises blasting the feds.
HJR 79 requests that Congress call a convention for the limited purpose of proposing an amendment to the constitution to provide for a federal balanced budget.
While mostly Republicans supported the resolution, which passed 100-40, Rep. Richard Raymond (D-Laredo) co-authored the legislation and more than a dozen Democrats voted for it.
The deficit is bad for the economy, and it wont get fixed without an amendment, Raymond told the Observer. I firmly believe this.
Read more: http://www.texasobserver.org/texas-house-moves-state-towards-a-balanced-budget/
Turbineguy
(37,312 posts)that a balanced budget would harm republicans?
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)would just secede already.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)If requesting a balanced budget amendment is the criteria for leaving the union.
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, and Wyoming have all petitioned such an amendment.
I don't think this is a good idea, but I do know that if one gets rid of all who disagree with them on one or more points, one will be alone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_budget_amendment
Article V of the Constitution specifies that if the legislatures of two-thirds of the states apply to Congress for a constitutional amendment by means of an amendment-proposing convention, then Congress must call that convention. Between May 8, 1957 (Indiana), and July 21, 1983 (Missouri), such applications, from 32 different state legislatures, were submitted to Congress on the subject of a Balanced Budget Amendment. The petitioning states were Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, and Wyoming.[19] After a dry spell lasting three decades, on November 20, 2013, lawmakers in Ohio provided the 33rd application on the subject (Senate Joint Resolution No. 5) and, on March 26, 2014, Michigan legislators (Senate Joint Resolution "V" provided the 34th. Taking into account the states whose lawmakers rescinded their prior Article V convention applicationsand did not later re-applythis leaves the count at 24 states, or 10 shy of the needed 34.
Javaman
(62,507 posts)and don't get me started on florida.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)but also that of the world. Just how big is your golden parachute, anyway?
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)but Texas isn't that much of a contributor to the US economy. But they could take a lot of the worthless "take more than they contribute" red states with them and we'd all be better off.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)but I can figure pretty well that the loss of Texas would crash the rest of the economy of the US. There's enough industry here for that alone, not to mention the cost-burden put on the federal government to move all of their interests out of the state.
And if the US economy crashes, remember what happened to the world economy last time...
By the way, the purpose of a union is to "work together." There is no such thing as a tally for who contributes the most and who "takes" the most. We All In It Together.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)I personally am tired of subsidizing right wing nutjob states.
Xipe Totec
(43,889 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Pick your fiefdom and find your place under your local feudal lord and take on his religion or else. That is the plan they they have been working on for years.
It's called feudalism. Where you must pay the baron to use his road and will bow to your betters or else be killed by those who directly benefit from strong man rule, where the strong men are supported by the guys with the guns, like the days of old, or today's despotic autocracies.
The OC crowd, is that who we want patrolling all public places, when they are barely a step away from being mercenaries and para-military gangs and are given their orders from corporate and religious overlords?
Like Rand Paul bragging about his private security that makes him feel safe, surrounded by Second Amendment solution riflemen who want to 'restore' the USA to its rightful rulers. Same thing as the CSA wanted, where only white men will rule.
Where social mobility is a pipe dream, slavery is what some people are born to be in and they deserve it. Historically all caused by reducing government until it is so weak it cannot enforce laws as it was the only force keeping feudalism at bay.
Yes, Grover knew that cutting off funds and denying government taxes was the way and enforced the allegiance of the GOP, as the Koch brothers do now.
Thom Hartmann did a great analysis, referring to an author who states the case plainly:
Why must Texas have guns in every place? Who funds the Open Carry movement, a gunin every school laws, SYG laws and enacts bills to 'restore' the nation to pre-Civil War conditions?
And if one really looks at the writings of the Confederate leaderhip, they weren't just disagreeing for business reasons for slavery. That's the economic view, but it came from their long felt social philosophy, that goes back to the days of the Greeks.
They believed that no one but white males were capable of ruling themselves and should not be allowed voice in government, ownership of property, wages or even the sovereignty of their own bodies. The basis was the belief that women and men of color were innately inferior in intellect, temperament and on the spiritual level, thus they should have no say at all, but were more like animals. To be used or abused. No rights.
They stated repeatedly that their problem was not just with the abolitionist mind pre-Civil War, but with the naive writers of the United States Constitution for saying all men were created equal. They said anyone but a white male was born to be used by a white man, as he chose.
A person can justify anything with that philosophy, from war, slavery of every kind, torture and rape. Just exactly what the GOP has been pushing since the Tea Party majority took over in states and in Washington in 2010.