We have a big problem up here in DFW.

[flying_wahini]

[link:https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/07/texas-oath-keepers-adl/|

…Two constables, four police chiefs and over 3,000 other Texans were members of the Oath Keepers, report says

A recent analysis of Oath Keepers’ membership rolls leaked last year found that Texas had more members of the far-right extremist group than any other state — and the most who worked as elected officials, law enforcement officers or members of the military.



I say fire them ALL. Start over. Hire more minorities and people with more education and different
Backgrounds.

When you only hire hammers everything looks like a nail.

[BComplex]

1. I hope to God Beto will take care of that problem!

Go BETO!!!

[Scrivener7]

3. I was so shocked to see on Real Clear Politics that Beto is running behind. BUT I have

to assume that doesn't take into account a lot of women who are suddenly changing their minds.

[childfreebychoice]

9. Not getting my hopes up about ga, FL, or TX. Nt

[markodochartaigh]

14. Stacey Abrams

As long as Stacey Abrams is in Georgia my hopes will be high for Georgia.

[Lonestarblue]

15. Beto definitely has an uphill battle.

And the new Republican voter nullification laws have so screwed up mail ballots that many people’s votes may not count unless they fill put those ballots and complete certain information on the envelopes. Houston alone discarded over 15,000 mail ballots for the primaries because of minor clerical errors. If that happens again in the major Democratic counties, Beto will certainly lose.

[onetexan]

20. precisely. The silent majority w show up en masse for Beto. i truly believe it. The women of this

state (regardless of politics) will rise up to fight for themselves and for their daughters, grand daughters, nieces, etc. I'm hoping Beto's team is running w this new material for new ads - that under Abbott's leadership he's allowed fascists to infiltrate the state's law enforcement organizations, at every level. He himself is a fascist and the others in tx gov't as well - Dan Patrick, Ken Paxton, etc.

[rubbersole]

2. I'm surprised that there weren't more.

Abbott could be on that list. Wouldn't surprise anybody.

[Turbineguy]

4. I don't think you can fire somebody for belonging to an organization.

Of course, if the Oath Keepers was declared a terrorist organization.... that would change things. Once a bunch of these J6 guys end up in prison, their organizations could be put on the terrorist list.

[KS Toronado]

21. Looked up how The Southern Poverty Law Center classified them

They tagged them an extreme anti-government group, don't know who could
classify them as a terrorist organization.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/oath-keepers

[Scrivener7]

5. That's pretty horrifying. It is also horrifying in how it points to the size of the organization.

3000 traitors, just in Texas.

[Ligyron]

16. Yeah, but Texas is a huge state, right?

Fla comes in next and I know we have a bunch too.

They’re like roaches down here…

[flying_wahini]

31. But that means there are several hundred in every major city in Texas.

[soldierant]

30. The full list of members was 38.000

[CanonRay]

6. Can't say I'm surprised nt

[Native]

7. I thought Florida would be right there with Texas. I'd love to know where we sit!

[slumcamper]

8. Here is a link to check:

Go here, scroll down to map, and click on FL:

[link:https://www.adl.org/resources/report/oath-keepers-data-leak-unmasking-extremism-public-life|

[Native]

10. Wow, I thought it would be significantly worse! Thanks for the link.

[ramen]

12. This is awful. Tough road ahead.. nt

[NJCher]

27. excellent link, source

Highly recommended.

I sent this all over the place, friends, relatives, etc.

[Traildogbob]

11. We should

Expect ALL our public servants to adhere to the OATH they take when sworn in. The problem is they bow to a warped version of an oath just like their rewritten BuyBull.
These traitors need to be fired for BREAKING the oath to protect the constitution, (So Help Me GAWD) not just for the CLUB they belong too. Being at war with democracy should damn sure be penalty enough to fire them. OATH Keepers my ass! I think these dress up soldiers run like Sadam’s elite forces did in Iraq when face to face with real soldiers. I mean just look at their General’s; trump, Lindsay, Flynn, Jones, and commander Bannon. Non of whom will be near any conflict or ever have. All will be under the command of Putin.

[Farmer-Rick]

13. How can they call themselves oath keepers????

The oath is to protect and defend the constitution but they are racist, Nazis and who support a dictator. No where does the constitution support this.

It's like saying I believe the Christian Bible because I don't eat shrimp but I don't believe the Sermon on the Mount.

[Wounded Bear]

22. They're just selective about which "oaths" matter and which don't...

[Evolve Dammit]

29. It's a misnomer. I prefer my natural food friends, the "Oat Eaters".

[flying_wahini]

32. I call them the Oaf keepers.

[Evolve Dammit]

34. Ha! Good one!

[concretebluetwo]

37. Oaf Qweefers

EOM

[Farmer-Rick]

36. Well they certainly aren't keeping their oath to the Constitution.

Oat eater hehe

[NullTuples]

17. People are often surprised when cops turn out to be Oath Keepers, but...

a member of the Board of Oath Keepers went on to found the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. It's essentially Oath Keepers but just for cops, but with the same agenda, bigotry and so on.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/10/oath-keepers-texas-richard-mack-profile-sheriff/

Seditious, white supremacist, bigoted cops are a massive problem in the USA but it's so incredibly difficult to get anyone to care. Perhaps it's because the system of law enforcement is mostly built on trust, the assumption that our cops won't be bad people. But in many, many places there simply is no accountability for sheriffs or police departments. Maybe people just don't want to admit the problem exists because there is very little that can actually be done to stop it outside of state legislatures + governors rewriting the status of law enforcement in each state.

[Cozmo]

18. How can anyone be surprised by this revelation, it's Texas, isn't it?

[Bobstandard]

19. They say, "what are you going to do about it?"

Most will get to stay on, establishing a new norm for policing. You know, normalizing fascism.

[Wounded Bear]

23. A lot of overlap between these guys and Sovereign Citizens, I presume...

Bunch of assholes who don't believe the Federal Government has any sovereignty over local politics.

[sop]

24. Defense attorneys will look up the names of arresting officers to see if they're on that list.

For every cop known to be an actual member of the Oath Keepers, there are likely hundreds of sympathizers.

[czarjak]

25. Firefighters too. Active and retired.

[ancianita]

26. Can't fire elected officials, which include sheriffs; and they can't fire a vet. A vet is a vet.

Can't just instantly "start over." That would look not just dictatorial, it actually would be dictatorial. No current Texas governor or statehouse is going to do anything about people's constitutional right to be in "associations" unless the current Oathkeepers of TX are indicted for crimes, and even then, all these kinds of members would not be indicted, anyway.

If there's a list available to the public, then go from there. I haven't seen a single list from any news report about allegedly existing databases.

Have you seen a list of Oathkeeper member names? So until there's publicly provided evidence, I don't see why anyone should take an undocumented news report as factual, anyway.

Seriously. We do have a problem with self-declared anti-government groups, but they can't just be done away with, without due process. Even Beto can't make Oathkeepers go away. Some day it might happen that a Republican majority somewhere declares the Democratic Party a terrorist organization. Would that give them the right to round up all Democrats in their jurisdiction and indict them?

[flying_wahini]

33. If they are involved in an organization that threatened to overthrow our government then

I would just bet they can find a reason to fire them. If they took an oath to be cops then
Rewrite the rules and THEN fire them. You called it due process. Then DO THE PROCESS.

Take away their rights to carry guns and vote. Like they do felons.

[ancianita]

35. That's not the issue of the OP. It's about their membership. "If" is always a hypothetical which

cannot disprove the facts as they're now presented. Or not presented here. The irony. How about YOU do the process.

You think you can just call them felons just because they're Oathkeeper members based on an "if"?

Proving criminality with evidence and time. People here like to say they should be fired as if guilt-by-association is a thing. Firing from a police force comes after an internal investigation, DA charges, etc, which hardly ever happen to police. Who rewrites what rules? Seriously?

Overall, fat chance. These people are in their positions because they were deemed qualified. Mere association with Oathkeepers isn't a crime. Vets and anyone else not sheriffs or LEO's are constitutionally free to associate with any group.

Like they say in Chicago, politics ain't bean bag. You can't just "rewrite rules," "take away" guns without proving criminality and the whole due process thing. And everyone here knows it.

[pecosbob]

28. We need new domestic terrorism legislation to replace the Patriot Act

[The Jungle 1]

38. The texass Christofascists want a white America.

They are not going to get it. Fascism always loses.
Education in texass is now 43 in the nation. It is almost like they want ignorant people!!!
Education is the front line in this battle.

[DJ Porkchop]

39. The scary numbers are not being reported.

They may not be knowable: How many *FORMER* LEO and public officials are in the ranks?
This would magnify the real threat of the embedded bigotry in our culture.
It would be a number 3x-5x what is reported as current, IMHO.

If Oath Keepers is dissolved in Texas and everywhere, there will be a new group formed, because this kind of hatred is part of the DNA of this country.

Rage Against The Machine lyrics:
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses

#ACAB