Wisconsin
Related: About this forumFuck... fuck fuck fuck...fuck. Walker makes move to harvest last old growth forrest.
FUCK...
Gov. Scott Walker is calling for more trees to be harvested from a national forest in far northern Wisconsin as part of the state's efforts to spur growth in its struggling timber industry.
Loggers and forestry experts have complained about how the Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest has been managed. They say the 1.5-million-acre forest is being underused, in part because of shortsighted federal harvest plans, Gannett Wisconsin Media reported ( http://post.cr/JmKVF9).
Walker agreed, saying in a statement Thursday that he thinks a more responsible harvest plan would yield greater output and provide an economic boost.
"The Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest contains a valuable resource that, right now, is underutilized _ millions of feet of timber just waiting to be harvest in an environmentally sensitive, sustainable way," Walker said. "This is another way to ensure forestry remains a vibrant part of Wisconsin's economy."
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http://lacrossetribune.com/news/state-and-regional/wi/walker-wis-forest-being-underused-for-logging/article_48a38d6e-cc0a-5248-b13f-259f4c291677.html
shenmue
(38,506 posts)The trees are our enemy!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,517 posts)I am sickened.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)It's called dominionism by most.
RC
(25,592 posts)How does cutting down the last of the old growth forests ensure any kind of forest? All some people can see is dollar signs.
postulater
(5,075 posts)Tell that to the martens, northern spotted owls, black bears and other native species.
This is too much. I am about to get sick.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)or a deforestation zone they didn't like. In the end they'll cut down all the trees and start selling oxygen in a bottle.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)friend's off-shore accounts.
hue
(4,949 posts)Wanker & associates view Mother Earth as their raw commodity for raping & profit!!
Personally I can't take anymore of him. (Praying for indictments...)
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)Many fond memories there as a younger man. A beautiful and wondrous forest.
God damn Scott Walker!
ancianita
(35,932 posts)to be destroyed. You can just smell the greed emanating from his mouth... "...snort...Something growing! Must destroy get money...slobberslobber..."
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)No your not high on anything but other peoples money. So what if we were using it to convert carbon dioxide into oxygen via solar power.
I swear Walker is such a greed driven willfully stupid man, even Mahatma Gandhi would want to kick his ass.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)These results did not make it possible for sustainable forestry. No timber company wants to go in and harvest just a few trees per acre, using horses to get the downed trees out. And they don't take all the "scrap" like huge piles of branches left all over the area, making new growth impossibly choked out.
japple
(9,808 posts)road from me (about 400 acres) have, in the last few months, been ripped out by the roots and hauled off for paper or fake pine logs, or pallets, or whatever they use pine trees for these days. I really feel guilty because I use Feline Pine cat litter. Where can I go now?
Edit to add: There will probably be either chicken houses or a crappy subdivision to replace the old piney woods that were there when my mother was born here in 1917.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)in that litter, but you could try the litter made from old newspapers (Fresh News, Yesterdays News, etc). I don't, I still use clay litter, but I did try the wheat based Swheat Scoop and hated it---although a lot of people like it.
I mourn for your old piney woods. It seems that places of purely natural beauty have no purpose to the money grubbers.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)is the political term for "clear cut"... = eliminate forest, plant tree farm or just slash and burn.
Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)and sometimes it's posted as a "protected forest area by so and so" and it's only 100 yards deep on both sides of the road. In Oregon they don't even bother with that anymore unless the clear cut is on federal land. Oregon is where I was born and raised... it is not the same place anymore. I can't even recognize the trails I used to hike back in the 70's. Save what you have left Wisconsin. It's worth fighting for.
Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)they moved to the Sierra Redwoods in California.
When old buildings are bulldozed today to make way for new developments, the riches of those forests are lost.
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)They'd love to make 2X4s out of those trees.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)horrible people are not creative to pursue other venues less destructive. WTF is wrong with them?
japple
(9,808 posts)lots of the chicken producers around here. Someone is putting in 10 enormous chicken houses about 2 miles from me. It will stink to high heaven all year round and in summer there will probably be lots more flies.
glinda
(14,807 posts)Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)In the industry they call these trees "over-mature" because their growth rate has slowed down.
postulater
(5,075 posts)by rot and used by owls, pileated woodpeckers, porcupines and dozens of other important residents.
250 years of growth....Gone!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Even after they fall they provide a bountiful food chain starting with fungi and insects.
I know of a gigantic standing dead elm. It's been dead for decades but stands on with no remaining bark. The morels like it.
lutefisk
(3,974 posts)...his ancestors had nothing to do with Wisconsin.
Walker does not care in the slightest about our state. Isn't from here, doesn't want to be here- he's a con man, plain and simple.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)and watch in silence, for fear of looking "too political."
defacto7
(13,485 posts)that Walker and his ilk do these atrocities just to make people hurt, not to build industry. They like it. It's a drug. It's to feel power when you can make people who can feel, feel pain and that you can enrich yourselves on that pain just makes it more exciting. Sociopaths. Psychopaths. They have no respect or insight past their own ego. They feel nothing.
Trees are the grandest, longest living life form on this planet, and they would kill them off in minutes, seconds... for what? We kill the trees, we kill our own species. The earth will win in the end but we won't be here.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)An already wealthy few will reap the rewards of cutting these trees at the expense of millions of us.
You will hear these assholes say, "But trees are a renewable resource."
Yeah, they're renewable, but not in my lifetime.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)It's the cellulose they use for products that's renewable. The forest is NOT renewable in less than 400 years. Then it probably won't be the same type of tree or foliage or be inhabited by the same animal, insect or microbial foundation IF it can happen at all. But words like "renewable" are an advertisement ploy; there's no such thing in real earth ecology, just business.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)And mostly they want to clear cut and replace it with a monoculture. When I grew up in forested Ohio it was a mostly hardwood deciduous. Our forest was comprised of oak, maple, beech, ash, cherry and poplar. When they cut the forest they replaced it with rows of white pine. It is just not the same.
a kennedy
(29,615 posts)Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)This is not the first time that the powers that be have gone after this old growth forest... a friend of mine back in the day did a documentary/report on the a rare species, I want to say a pine martin.... who's habitat twas exclusive to the northern part of the state... but it has been many years... I'm going to have to dig, that could be a start.