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Related: About this forumI'm a bit surprised that Gibraltar voted so overwhelmingly for "Remain".
You'd think a significant sector of the populace there would see the Leave option as a way to secure Gibraltar's tie to the UK.
DemFromPittsburgh
(102 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,889 posts)So barriers are a bad idea.
msongs
(67,381 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)as a way to ward that off.
(for the record, I'd have voted Remain...mainly because of the ugliness of spirit of a lot of those on the Leave side).
Ironing Man
(164 posts)because Gib is, in effect, a city state it relies on a Spanish hinterland to grow the food it buys. when Spain plays silly buggers on the border it does so knowing that food will, literally, rot in the lorries sat for 9 hours at the border crossing.
it has a similar effect on workers - lots of Gibs work in southern Spain, having those people spend 18 hours a day at a border crossing means they can't work.
the EU, to a very large extent, kept the Spanish from buggering around on an internal EU border. if however that border is an External border the Spanish can do what they like. the Gibs know that, so they voted to remain to keep the border open, and to have a higher, very powerful court/authority to appeal to when the Spanish start arsing around.
there is a possible solution - in 1985 Greenland, a constituant member of the Kingdom of Denmark, left the EU after a referendum, but it stayed as a member of the Kingdom of Denmark, and the rest of the Kingdom of Denmark remained in the EU...
the problem however is that Spain would have to agree. which poses an, err... obsticle.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)At this point, why does Spain even still CARE about getting Gibraltar back?
Is there any real material value attached to the place anymore, or is it just about taking the Rock for the sake of taking the Rock?
Ironing Man
(164 posts)It's bent pride and distraction politics.
It also ignores Spain's city state colonies on the North African coast - which are, of course, completely different...
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)UK can do on its own.