Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:50 AM Nov 2016

Paul Nuttall elected as UKIP leader

From the BBC.

Paul Nuttall has been elected leader of the UK Independence Party, replacing Nigel Farage.

The 39-year-old Member of the European Parliament, who served as UKIP's deputy leader for six years, won 62.6% of support among party members.

He promised to "put the great back into Britain" and force the government to "give us a real Brexit".





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38125432

Nutter, as he will now be known, is even more unhinged than Farage. Hopefully UKIP will now fade into obscurity.
9 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
2. 'Put the great back in Britain' - ugh!
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 09:55 AM
Nov 2016

Can't stand that cliché.

UKIP people do seem to have remarkably suitable names: Nutter (well, nearly); Hookem; (Big Bad) Woolfe. Farage is not far off farrago - a confused mish-mash or hodgepodge, often used for combinations of silly ideas.

Denzil_DC

(7,232 posts)
3. "62.6% of support among party members"
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 09:58 AM
Nov 2016

Peak UKIP membership, as of December 2015: 34,250

UKIP membership, November 2016: 17,320

Leadership election results:

Paul Nuttall 9,622

Suzanne Evans 2,973

John Rees-Evans 2,775

Nice mandate you got there, you bad Bootle meff.

Even more of a rump than they ever were.

The extreme right-wing views of new Ukip leader Paul Nuttall

* Favours NHS privatisation

* Wants abortion limited to first 12 weeks

* Wants Burqa banned in public buildings

* Opposes banning discrimination against gay people

* Defends sexist comments

* Climate change denier who spreads conspiracy theories

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/28/the-extreme-right-wing-views-of-new-ukip-leader-paul-nuttall


And that's just the tip of it. Is there a lab somewhere where they cobble these arseholes together?

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
4. That's not enough votes to win a Westminster seat.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:07 AM
Nov 2016

Hopefully they will become an irrelevance. Nutter is like Gregg Wallace without the good bits, he doesn't like anything.

Denzil_DC

(7,232 posts)
5. Well, party membership doesn't equal votes, unfortunately.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:43 AM
Nov 2016

I think our best hope is for the UKIP infighting to continue, and that people no longer see them as a valid protest vote. They've had some council election successes, but even Farage has failed repeatedly (eight times, I think) to win a parliamentary seat.

Ironically, their real power base is in the European Parliament, despite their appalling attendance record and scant regard for serving their constituencies, and that's where the bulk of their non-donor (a.k.a. fat cat) funding comes from.

Not that there haven't been glitches there, either:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=20&q=ukip+expenses

EU set to ask Ukip group to repay almost £150,000 in 'misspent funds'

Ukip is likely to be asked to repay tens of thousands of euros by European parliament finance chiefs who have accused the party of misspending EU funds on party workers and Nigel Farage’s failed bid to win a seat in Westminster.

The Alliance for Direct Democracy in Europe (ADDE), a Ukip-dominated political vehicle, will be asked to repay €173,000 (£148,000) in misspent funds and denied a further €501,000 in EU grants for breaking European rules that ban spending EU money on national election campaigns and referendums.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/17/eu-set-to-ask-ukip-group-to-repay-almost-150000-in-misspent-funds

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
7. I cannot fathom why they don't make Carswell their leader
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 04:36 PM
Nov 2016

He is their only MP after all.

I expect UKIP to concentrate now on white working class areas, especially in the north of England. The Tories seem to have stolen their thunder down South but they will still see an opportunity where they are up against Labour right now.

Sadly, the way they are likely to go about this is by being even more overly racist than before. And what's worse is that such an approach is a big vote winner in this day and age.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
8. Because Carswell, hard-right as he may seem to us...
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 04:51 PM
Nov 2016

is a dangerous lefty by the standards of much of UKIP. He is a right-libertarian; many of them are neo-fascists

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
9. "Libertarian" doesn't really mean anything these days
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:31 PM
Dec 2016

At best it's a bandy word for people who like to bandy words about. Socialism has suffered the same fate.

Carswell is fanatical about leaving the EU at any cost, but he isn't an obsessively bigoted anti-immigrant type, which is an issue in the party of obsessive anti-immigrant bigots he's chosen to throw his lot in with.

Latest Discussions»Region Forums»United Kingdom»Paul Nuttall elected as U...