feedback sought from our UK posters

[steve2470]

As most of you know, I absolutely love the UK. I even watch the House of Commons on parliament.uk from time to time. I wish we had a similar system in our House and Senate. We need a President's Questions, really we do.

At any rate, I want your unfiltered feedback on what's going on with us in the USA. How worried are you ? How bad is it from a UK perspective ? It's NEVER been this bad in the UK in recent history. NEVER.

Thank you sincerely in advance!

Steve

[T_i_B]

1. Looking grim on both sides of the pond

[steve2470]

2. are many Brits upset about Brexit ?

I know some are probably STILL happy about it.

[T_i_B]

3. The shit hasn't hit the fan yet

And most of the people who support it are very fanatical and intolerant of any criticism of the national cancer.

On the same note, are US republican voters getting cold feet yet?

[steve2470]

4. maybe some, but not in large numbers yet nt

[LeftishBrit]

6. Lots are pretty upset..

Remember: nearly half voted against it.

There are also a lot of people who are still conned into thinking it will be the greatest thing since sliced bread, or rather since straight bananas! The number of people who think Brexit is a good thing because of (mostly-imaginary) EU regulations on the shape of bananas and cucumbers is rather amazing; and it's difficult not to think of possible Freudian explanations...

And there is always the core group of xenophobes who follow their great leader, the godlike Nigel Farage. How someone who spends most of his time with his lips glued to the royal rump of the American president is credible as the leader of a 'UK Independence Party' is beyond me; but I daresay it's similarly puzzling to you how the best pal of the Russian leader gets to be the choice of the American isolationist Right.

There are also people who just voted Brexit to get rid of Cameron, and now do regret it because May is worse.

I think that when the full implications of Brexit sink in, there will be a lot more opposition, but by then it may be too late for an easy solution.

[steve2470]

8. I've watched hours of the Commons debate.....

and even though Kenneth Clarke is a long time Tory, he had the guts to stand up and advocate for voting against Brexit. A young lady who represents part of London, Tulip (forget her last name) was very passionate about remaining and voting against.

Hopefully, if Brexit is to be, the PM can craft something decent, or maybe the whole thing will fail ? It seems like what most of the UK wants (freedom of movement, staying in the common market, no tariffs on imports) and Brexit are not compatible.

Anyway, I wish you and other DU Brits the best. Really, to all of UK. These are scary times for you all. For we Yanks too, very much so.

[LeftishBrit]

9. Tulip Siddiq. I like her. Yes, Ken Clarke seems to be one of the few Tories possessed of a spine...

Thanks for your good wishes.

[LeftishBrit]

5. We are very worried about the whole USA situation

The UK situation is bad, but the US situation makes it worse: Brexit would be a very bad idea under almost any circumstances, but is even worse because it is driving us into the arms of The Unspeakable.

Most people in the UK, even right-wingers and Leavers, detest The Unspeakable, though there is a core group of Farage followers who support him.

The House of Commons system isn't perfect - there seems to be little scope for anything in our political parties between complete internecine warfare, and following the leader like a herd of cloned sheep. And at the moment there is this attitude of 'the People have Spoken on Brexit; we can't defy their will even in an international crisis' even though the vote would have been insufficient for major constitutional change in most countries, and the government defies the Will of the People on lots of things like the NHS 'reforms'.

I'm not sure you'd want President's Questions with the present incumbent: 'Because it's yuuuuge! Really tremendous! And everyone supports me, and my ratings for the Apprentice were higher than anyone's and I get these yuuuuuge crowds! Did you contradict me, Senator X? Well, everyone knows you Democrats are just a bunch of snowflakes, and you're not making America GREAT!!! SHUT UP! You LOST!!! I will DEFUND you all! I will LOCK YOU ALL UP!!!' (Throws self down on floor and starts kicking and screaming like an overgrown toddler whose parents have said No to another ice-cream.)

[T_i_B]

7. There are a fair few UK admirers of President Fart

Why? Well we also have more than our fair share of racist fucknuggets who think that President Fart will "shake things up a bit". Many of these people seem to think that President Fart screwing the world up will be something of a jolly jape, and view leaving the EU in the same terms.

Trouble is, politics is not a game. When politicians screw up people lose their lives.

[LeftishBrit]

10. Getting more and more bloody scared

The anti-hard-Brexit amendments are being defeated; Ken Clarke is a staunch rebel but the vast majority of his colleagues are going along with it all; more shockingly most Labour MPs are voting to trigger Article 50, and a contingent of half a dozen 'LINO's as you might call them - Frank Field, Gisela Stuart, etc. - are rebelling on the amendments. Can't believe Gisela Stuart voted against protecting EU citizens in the UK (May is using them as human shields in case other EU countries go after UK expats); after all, she's a German immigrant herself! Actually, I can believe anything of her: she explicitly supported Bush against Kerry in 2004.

And of course Trump makes the whole situation ten times as dangerous.

I'm not really cut out to be a hero, or even a survivor, if things get too bad. Just want to go to sleep and wake up in 100 years if the world still exists by then!

There will be a march against Brexit on March 25th - I hope it's the biggest march ever, but will our leaders listen? NO.