Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 06:11 AM Jan 2014

Huge swath of GCHQ mass surveillance is illegal, says top lawyer

GCHQ's mass surveillance spying programmes are probably illegal and have been signed off by ministers in breach of human rights and surveillance laws, according to a hard-hitting legal opinion that has been provided to MPs.

The advice warns that Britain's principal surveillance law is too vague and is almost certainly being interpreted to allow the agency to conduct surveillance that flouts privacy safeguards set out in the European convention on human rights (ECHR).

The inadequacies, it says, have created a situation where GCHQ staff are potentially able to rely "on the gaps in the current statutory framework to commit serious crime with impunity".

At its most extreme, the advice raises issues about the possible vulnerability of staff at GCHQ if it could be proved that intelligence used for US drone strikes against "non-combatants" had been passed on or supplied by the British before being used in a missile attack.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/28/gchq-mass-surveillance-spying-law-lawyer

2 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Huge swath of GCHQ mass surveillance is illegal, says top lawyer (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jan 2014 OP
What happened to the fair-weather libertarians... Anarcho-Socialist Jan 2014 #1
In my opinion... LeftishBrit Jan 2014 #2

Anarcho-Socialist

(9,601 posts)
1. What happened to the fair-weather libertarians...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 08:11 AM
Jan 2014

...in the Tory and Lib Dem leadership?

I recall the angst cries of "New Labour surveillance state" from before 2010.

Opportunistic posturing you say?

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
2. In my opinion...
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jan 2014

the foundations for the surveillance state were laid, to a very large extent, under Thatcher. She did not of course have all the latest technology, but she went to extraordinary lengths to organize the infiltration and surveillance of people and organizations that she disliked:

e.g.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/how-thatchers-election-win-launched-secret-war-on-cnd-6286326.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/margaret-thatcher-nearly-sent-in-the-army-to-crush-miners-secret-papers-reveal-9034934.htm


While I hold no brief for Blair, he did not invent surveillance.


Latest Discussions»Region Forums»United Kingdom»Huge swath of GCHQ mass s...