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Eugene

(61,862 posts)
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 07:39 AM Sep 2017

Prominent Republicans Urge Supreme Court to End Gerrymandering

Source: New York Times

Prominent Republicans Urge Supreme Court to End Gerrymandering

By ADAM LIPTAK SEPT. 6, 2017

WASHINGTON — Breaking ranks with many of their fellow Republicans, a group of prominent politicians filed briefs on Tuesday urging the Supreme Court to rule that extreme political gerrymandering — the drawing of voting districts to give lopsided advantages to the party in power — violates the Constitution.

The briefs were signed by Republicans including Senator John McCain of Arizona; Gov. John R. Kasich of Ohio; Bob Dole, the former Republican Senate leader from Kansas and the party’s 1996 presidential nominee; former senators John C. Danforth of Missouri, Richard G. Lugar of Indiana and Alan K. Simpson of Wyoming; and Arnold Schwarzenegger, a former governor of California.

“Partisan gerrymandering has become a tool for powerful interests to distort the democratic process,” reads a brief filed by Mr. McCain and Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island.

The Supreme Court will hear arguments in the case, Gill v. Whitford, No. 16-1161, on Oct. 3.

The Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee and the Republican State Leadership Committee all filed briefs on the other side. They urged the Supreme Court to reject a challenge to State Assembly districts in Wisconsin that, by some measures, gave Republicans outsize political power unjustified by the overall vote.

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Prominent Republicans Urge Supreme Court to End Gerrymandering (Original Post) Eugene Sep 2017 OP
Wow ! Now let's hope their efforts are fruitful.. vkkv Sep 2017 #1
What democratic process? bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #2
Thank you Eugene saidsimplesimon Sep 2017 #3
Wow! Good for them. TryLogic Sep 2017 #4
Have they noticed (finally) it insulates, puts the Repug looniest in charge? stuffmatters Sep 2017 #5
Any time the GOP or its members make a suggestion...trust me...it's for their own good. C Moon Sep 2017 #6
Bingo! SergeStorms Sep 2017 #8
I said this before...the GOP is currently doing nothing except planning for the 2018 elections. C Moon Sep 2017 #11
Bingo is right! WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2017 #14
Good Hekate Sep 2017 #7
After 2010 in OH the Republicans gerrymandered the shit out of the state and as .... Botany Sep 2017 #9
Don't just end gerrymandering. Undo it! Beartracks Sep 2017 #10
Gerrymandering in Canada mahigan Sep 2017 #12
The GOP.... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #13
Welcome to DU, mahigan! calimary Sep 2017 #15
Actually, I've been here for years mahigan Sep 2017 #17
A conservative friend and I kid each other: It's "gerrymandering" when the other side does it :-) The Mouth Sep 2017 #16
Many of the blue states, however NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #18
and the rs started and took full advantage of it when one senator designend his AllaN01Bear Sep 2017 #19

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
2. What democratic process?
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 12:38 PM
Sep 2017

That's what the GOP wanted to end, isn't it?

And this Supreme Court, won't they just approve gerrymandering as part of GWB's "ownership society"? And money is free speech? If money is free speech you can spend all you want on gerrymandering.

This is about the right of the rich, privileged, and powerful to undermine one-man one-vote for the benefit of the rich and powerful.

Hell, they'll probably support hiring private corporations to draw the boundaries! It's a money fest!

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
3. Thank you Eugene
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 01:05 PM
Sep 2017

Where are the other republicans currently in Congress? Having lunch or dinner on our dime?

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
5. Have they noticed (finally) it insulates, puts the Repug looniest in charge?
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 06:24 PM
Sep 2017

They used gerrymandering to elect Repugs, creating districts where they were guaranteed reelection in disproportionate (rigged)
districts. It's blowing up in their faces as the "reasonable" Repugs face the greatest challenges not by Dems but from the Far Right
in those gerrymandered districts. There is no more the opportunity for "bipartisanship" (no matter how cosmetic) in those districts.
So Repug zealots rule.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
6. Any time the GOP or its members make a suggestion...trust me...it's for their own good.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 08:08 PM
Sep 2017

Last edited Thu Sep 7, 2017, 11:58 AM - Edit history (1)

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
8. Bingo!
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 05:01 AM
Sep 2017

The GOP has been gerrymandering for decades. Now that they have the voting districts the way they want them, they want to make it illegal to change them back.

If they're willing to return the districts to where they were in 1995, sure, I'd say that would be alright. Right before Newt's bullshit "contract with America" in the mid 90s would be just fine, thank you. After that, the GOP put the pedal to the metal on gerrymandering, and they haven't slowed down since. Now that everything's the way they want it, they want to show the American people (the ones that are paying attention anyway) how magnanimous they are by promising to end gerrymandering. That's mighty big of them.

BULLSHIT They know they're going to get killed in the 2018 mid-terms, and the districts would start being realigned to a more fair and reasonable position. Well, if there's one thing the GOP HATES it's a fair and reasonable playing field. In my opinion this is a Trojan Horse, and I'm hoping our Democratic leaders examine this very closely before opening the gates to let it in.

That's just one man's opinion. Your mileage may vary.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
11. I said this before...the GOP is currently doing nothing except planning for the 2018 elections.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 11:57 AM
Sep 2017

It seems most everything they are putting forth is to help them not lose everything in 2018.
Sneaky, selfish, careless, liars.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
14. Bingo is right!
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 06:40 PM
Sep 2017

These guys do NOTHING out of the goodness of their souls, or for the good of the country. When I saw this headline, my first thought was "those guys really don't like their own shit used against them" I think they see the writing on the wall. They must think the next couple of elections are lost, giving the dems the right to redraw the districts in 2020. They're happy with them just the way they are, thank you very much. It's all part of KKKarl Rove's "permanent Republican majority".

Botany

(70,488 posts)
9. After 2010 in OH the Republicans gerrymandered the shit out of the state and as ....
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 08:43 AM
Sep 2017

.... governor Kasich didn't say one word.

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
10. Don't just end gerrymandering. Undo it!
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 11:29 AM
Sep 2017

If it's wrong now -- and they're acknowledging that it's been a problem with demonstrably negative results -- then it's been wrong for the last 20-30 years.

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mahigan

(85 posts)
12. Gerrymandering in Canada
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 01:02 AM
Sep 2017

Gerrymandering has been so uncommon in Canada since the early 60s that I doubt that most Canadians who don't follow US politics even know what the word means.

More info on how Canada handled the problem is at this link [link:https://www.vox.com/2014/4/15/5604284/us-elections-are-rigged-but-canada-knows-how-to-fix-them|

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
13. The GOP....
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 04:44 AM
Sep 2017

would never go for that. Leave it up to sources beside themselves? Why, one of those people might be a Democrat, or a minority! I think you get my drift. I really don't think they'd go for it, but I've been wrong before.

calimary

(81,198 posts)
15. Welcome to DU, mahigan!
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 02:41 AM
Sep 2017

It's hard even to imagine that - not knowing what gerrymandering means. We're stuck in it like quicksand with a side of epoxy.

mahigan

(85 posts)
17. Actually, I've been here for years
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 11:33 PM
Sep 2017

As a leftist Canadian, I tend to use the site as a counter balance to the conventional US news sources. And I usually don't post anything that isn't directly relevant to Americans. That said, I do have some ideas for a couple of big multi part posts but I will have to run them by the mods before I even start. I have too much work left over at the end of the day to invest that much time in something that isn't wanted.

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
16. A conservative friend and I kid each other: It's "gerrymandering" when the other side does it :-)
Sun Sep 10, 2017, 07:19 PM
Sep 2017

Seriously, we need some sort of impartial formula, something that requires the most compact possible district or some other mathematical construction that completely takes all demographics out of it so that every district is competitive.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
18. Many of the blue states, however
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 08:50 AM
Sep 2017

have some sort of independent, or mostly independent, process to draw up districts. It's primarily red states that go to the extremes.

I mean, if California wanted to follow NC or PA as examples, they could probably squeeze 5-6 more Democratic seats into their delegation, if not more.

AllaN01Bear

(18,138 posts)
19. and the rs started and took full advantage of it when one senator designend his
Mon Sep 11, 2017, 08:59 AM
Sep 2017

district to look like a salamander

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