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Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 05:10 PM Sep 2013

Question about XP

I recently bought a Windows XP PC as a back-up computer. My main computer is a Mac, and I don't have so much experience with Windows. I mostly use the PC for running old software, but I have occasionally used it to access DU and some news sites.

Anyway, a couple of nights ago, I got a message on the PC telling me that the new software was ready to install and that I should reboot the computer. If I didn't reboot the computer, it would reboot automatically at "T minus 15 minutes and counting", if I didn't click the "Reboot Later" button. I didn't download any software, so I'm wondering what this could be. Does Microsoft automatically download software patches into computers, or could this be some sort of malicious software? The notice comes on about every 15 minutes, and disrupts anything else that I'm doing on the PC at the time. I always click the "Reboot Later" button because I have no idea what this could be. Does anyone have any idea?

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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. Depending on your settings Microsoft may in fact automatically install updates like this.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 05:20 PM
Sep 2013

Please see the following on controlling automatic updates: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
3. That's basically what it looks like
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 05:27 PM
Sep 2013

except that the notice is in Japanese (for a Japanese language system). Is it normal for the message to pop up every 15 minutes and disrupt all of the other programs that are running?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
5. OK, that's good to know
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 07:31 PM
Sep 2013

At least it isn't some trojan/virus. Whew! Thanks for the information

By the way, is there any way I can backup the operating system on an external hard disk drive? It's a Fujitsu notebook, if that makes any difference.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
8. Interesting
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 08:24 PM
Sep 2013

Macs can back up everything, including the OS, onto an external hard disk drive, so I assumed the same thing could be done with Windows. My PC was sold as is from the junk bin, for about $60. It did not come with any start-up or system disks, just the OS that was already installed. I like the fact that it can still run a lot of the old hybrid software that I bought in the '90s, so if anything happened to the operating system, I guess that would render it unusable? Or could it be repairable with Microsoft support?

Gore1FL

(21,098 posts)
13. There are utilities to do so.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 11:16 PM
Sep 2013

Win Vista and beyond, you can save your disk image in a WIM file with ImageX. That may not be the best way to do a backup, but it works.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
7. You can use Macrium Reflect to back up the OS.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 08:08 PM
Sep 2013
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

It will create one large backup file. You can choose whether it is a backup of the whole HD or just the XP partition. Don't use the sector by sector option as that will include a backup of free/empty space which means the file would be much much larger than necessary.

You should also consider burning the bootable CD from within the program. That way if the XP computer doesn't boot sometime you will be able to boot from CD to the Macrium program to restore your backup image.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
10. It can't hurt to try it. You can always delete the backup if you don't want to use it.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 10:24 PM
Sep 2013

I don't backup very often and think Macrium's interface is a bit hard to navigate so if you decide to try and run into questions let me know. I can run through the program to familiarize myself with it again.

I'm ready to start a fresh installation on my computer anyway and have a backup file from my last fresh install. So, I'll be running through the process of restoring a Macrium backup in the next few weeks and can let you know how things go. IF I remember correctly restoring the image is fairly simple, setting the options for creating the image is where the interface is lacking.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
11. Yes, you can back up the operating system.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 10:41 PM
Sep 2013

You can create "system restore" disks to completely re-install a fresh operating system. This is useful if you buy a new hard drive, or wipe your old drive (for example if you want to sell it or it was damaged by malware).

You can also create a "system repair" disk which can be used to repair some of the system files if they get damaged by malware etc.

You can usually also create a "drivers" disk which has the original device drivers from the manufacturer.

Those three sets are usually created on DVD's or CD's, and often can only be created on DVD's or CD's.

You can also back up the system as it currently is, with the installed updates.
That's usually done to an external hard drive.

I'll try to post some links later.

There may also be instructions in your manual, which you can download from Fujitsu's website.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
14. For XP, no. No native backup support. The good news is...........
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 09:24 AM
Sep 2013

There are good free things that can do it for you.
Might want to look into...
Redo Backup and Recovery
http://redobackup.org/

bananas

(27,509 posts)
12. There are some settings to change that.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 10:51 PM
Sep 2013

I have some errands to run, I'll try to post more info later.

hunter

(38,302 posts)
17. If it's just a "back-up" computer, seriously, try Linux.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 09:45 PM
Sep 2013

Some version of Mint might be a good place to start.

http://www.linuxmint.com

or xubuntu for any xp compatible machine.

I'm a Debian geek, but I started out with BSD Unix in the later 'seventies, so Debian might not be your cup of tea.

There's nothing to lose and everything to gain. You may never have to buy software again. I've got every computer I've ever used, 'seventies onwards, just one or two clicks away emulated on my desktop. I can open files and software I wrote more than forty years ago. It's more crap than I can stand looking at (I wasn't always the brilliant sweetheart I am now ) but it's all still there.




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