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savalez

(3,517 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:48 PM Jun 2016

UPDATED: Right on cue! Sanders campaign accuses Puerto Rico of fraud

Last edited Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Sanders campaign accuses Puerto Rico Dem officials of fraud

Bernie Sanders’s campaign is accusing Puerto Rico’s Democratic Party officials of fraud in the territory’s presidential primary.

The campaign’s head of Hispanic voter efforts, Betsy Franceschini, told Caribbean Business in an interview that Sanders officials were initially denied access to prisons to help inmates vote.
“Our Bernie Sanders officials were never certified. We had 40 officials we submitted in time for the prisons. Not one of them was certified, while all of theirs [Hillary Clinton’s] went in. Attorney Manny Suárez had to go in order for us to be let in. This is a great fraud,” Franceschini said.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/282228-sanders-campaign-accuses-puerto-rico-dem-officials-of-fraud

END IT ALREADY!!!

UPDATE

Puerto Rico Dems 'appalled' by accusations from Sanders camp

The head of the Democratic Party of Puerto Rico slammed the Sanders campaign on Saturday for accusing it of unfairly denying poll workers access to prisons to help inmates vote.

"I am appalled at the remarks from the spokesperson of the Bernie Sanders Campaign in Puerto Rico, Ms. Betsy Franceschini," local Democratic Party president Roberto Prats said in a statement.

snip

"Inmate voting is handled not by the Democratic Party but by the Commonwealth's Absentee and Advance Vote Administrative Board," Prats said. "I have been told that the Sanders campaign submitted their prison pollworker list at 6:10 pm on the evening prior to inmate voting and began complaining early in the following morning that the Board had not completed their pollworker's certification. But in the end, despite the late submittal, the Sanders campaign had representatives at the prison voting places."

He also accused the Sanders campaign of stealing two boxes of ballots that had been cast by prisoners before delivering them to an election office.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/282237-puerto-rico-democratic-party-denies-wrongdoing-in-primary
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UPDATED: Right on cue! Sanders campaign accuses Puerto Rico of fraud (Original Post) savalez Jun 2016 OP
Bernie and Trump, two peas in a litigious pod Happyhippychick Jun 2016 #1
Yep. savalez Jun 2016 #10
I wish he would concede on June 8 and return to the Senate. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #2
Maybe all of the delegates that are his hard core supporters will be out there LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #8
Nothing is ever fair to Sanders. Its all RIGGED!!!!!!!! BootinUp Jun 2016 #3
see post # 5 riversedge Jun 2016 #6
I can picture how angry he'll be when he's ignored after Hillary is named the nominee Tuesday. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #4
He's pretty much bring ignored now charlyvi Jun 2016 #9
Is that true? savalez Jun 2016 #11
The HILL article is a one-sided story only--from the Sanders camp!--more at the embedded riversedge Jun 2016 #5
Of course! puffy socks Jun 2016 #7
Predictable much? peggysue2 Jun 2016 #12
.... puffy socks Jun 2016 #16
So let me get this straight, Sander's campaign waits until 5 pm on Thursday to submit Native Jun 2016 #13
I think the Sanders campaign is late for a lot of things NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #25
What I think is that he has a giant, fragile ego, and really just can't bear that we don't want him. shadowandblossom Jun 2016 #14
Not unlike Trump. savalez Jun 2016 #15
Narcissists think they're perfect caquillo Jun 2016 #21
This will all be over on Tuesday. Walk away Jun 2016 #17
This does not surprize me at all. William769 Jun 2016 #18
I wonder what his monday stunt is going to be... SaschaHM Jun 2016 #19
People need to start suing this jackass 72DejaVu Jun 2016 #20
The man and his campaign are both inept ladym55 Jun 2016 #22
BS' PR STunts are ENDLESS! He'll still be pulling them from the Senate!!!!! Cha Jun 2016 #23
Say Goodbye! savalez Jun 2016 #24
it figures... chillfactor Jun 2016 #26
*Eye roll SaschaHM Jun 2016 #27
Sanders operatives only stole the ballot boxes to expose annavictorious Jun 2016 #28
Breaking the law to show it's possible is still breaking the law. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #30
Isn't that the excuse they gave for breaking into Hillary's data? jmowreader Jun 2016 #35
Wait, what?! caquillo Jun 2016 #29
Yes it is... savalez Jun 2016 #31
Keep us posted if you uncover anything caquillo Jun 2016 #32
Pffft. Typical. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2016 #33
Par for Sanders liberal N proud Jun 2016 #34

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
2. I wish he would concede on June 8 and return to the Senate.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jun 2016

I read on Politico this AM that the stage is set for 20,000 Bernie supporters to hold an anti-Clinton rally outside the convention hall in Philadelphia at some point during the convention.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
4. I can picture how angry he'll be when he's ignored after Hillary is named the nominee Tuesday.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:55 PM
Jun 2016

It's going to be fun.

riversedge

(70,174 posts)
5. The HILL article is a one-sided story only--from the Sanders camp!--more at the embedded
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jun 2016

Link within the story....



Sanders’ Campaign Alleges Fraud in Puerto Rico Presidential Primary

http://cb.pr/bernie-sanders-camp-reports-fraud-in-the-puerto-rico-presidential-primary/

By Rafelli González on June 3, 2016



............When asked by Caribbean Business about the situation, Prats said the list of Sanders’ voting center officials was received Thursday at about 5 p.m., and that he expects the certifications to take place during the afternoon Friday.

Regarding the fact that the leadership of the Democratic Party in Puerto Rico – which has expressed itself publicly in favor of the candidacy of former first lady Hillary Clinton – has faced problems in the recruitment process of officials for voting centers, which would put the process’ transparency at risk, Prats denied there was any inconvenient that would prevent holding the primary.

“It is not true that the primaries have fallen. We have officials, and they keep arriving. We are going to have 432 voting centers with officials to receive the voters,” Prats said.

Without mentioning participation estimates, Prats said he foresees the event “will be an example of wide electoral participation.” In previous interviews the president of the local Democratic Party, he has mentioned that more than 600,000 voters would participate in these primaries.

However the local committeeman of the party, Kenneth McClintock, said that due to the decrease in the number of centers made available for this process – from 1,510 to 432 – participation could be around 300,000 voters....................

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
7. Of course!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jun 2016


Its just gotten so pathetic.. I'm embarrassed for the guy.
Both he and his supporters are making complete fools out of themselves.

peggysue2

(10,826 posts)
12. Predictable much?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jun 2016

This whine came on cue. PR looks like a blowout for Hillary Clinton, so of course that means fraud and establishment tinkering and . . . whatever. Meaning my native state of New Jersey should batten down the hatches because a tidal wave is on the way, one that's going to carry Hillary over the finish line.

I can already hear the whine blowing across the Jersey dunes. Oy!

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
16. ....
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jun 2016
Meaning my native state of New Jersey should batten down the hatches because a tidal wave is on the way, one that's going to carry Hillary over the finish line!


Yessssss!!

Native

(5,939 posts)
13. So let me get this straight, Sander's campaign waits until 5 pm on Thursday to submit
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jun 2016

their list of officials for certification, and the very next morning they're screaming foul play because their list wasn't immediately approved? And why in the heck does The Hill take the first couple of paragraphs from an article printed in Caribbean Business, but conveniently leave off the 2nd half of the article that states the list would be approved by Friday (yesterday, the very next day)? Jeez.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
25. I think the Sanders campaign is late for a lot of things
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jun 2016

As are their supporters, who don't bother learning their state's election rules and deadlines. It's a convenient excuse to cry "fraud."

God I can't stand these people. Come on Tuesday!

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
14. What I think is that he has a giant, fragile ego, and really just can't bear that we don't want him.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jun 2016

So when his ego takes a blow, losing, he has to come up with an emotionally acceptable alternative, and casts himself as the victim of even against direct evidence, over and over and over. He always has some excuse or false data point to share. I think his ego really just can't take it. I see him as emotionally incapable of dealing with reality. He doesn't seem to grow from his errors and flaws, he just seems to deny that his errors and flaws exist.

caquillo

(521 posts)
21. Narcissists think they're perfect
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jun 2016
Sufferers of what's called narcissistic personality disorder aren't just vain; they're grandiose about themselves to the point of obsession, charmingly manipulative, and often have a sociopathic lack of empathy towards others.


1. They love being the exception to the rule.
2. They don't care much about your feelings.
3. They have a major problem with authority.
4. They completely dominate conversations, even when they're about you.
5. They are intensely charming and confident.
6. They perpetually challenge you (and not in the good way).
7. They started out devoted, but have quickly become disinterested.
8. Their reputation means everything to them.
9. They think your emotions are a sign of weakness.
10. You feel like a character in their sweeping life drama.
11. They have no respect for your boundaries.
12. They require constant control over you.
13. They believe everybody either loves them ... or is jealous of them.
14. They have a history of infidelity and bad breakups.
15. They collect friends who idolize them.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/71308-15-signs-youre-dating-a-narcissist-because-its-not-as-obvious-as-you-might-think

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
17. This will all be over on Tuesday.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

But these people are ridiculous. Instead of taking the opportunity to really make a change, they have decided to be absurd spoilers. I predict they end up with little or nothing. What a way to squander an advantage. No wonder the Democratic Socialist Party never accomplishes anything.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
19. I wonder what his monday stunt is going to be...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jun 2016

Always trying to delegitimize the process when he's going to lose.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
20. People need to start suing this jackass
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jun 2016

He just throws wild accusations at people with no evidence. Someone needs to take him to court.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
22. The man and his campaign are both inept
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jun 2016

Over and over again, they demonstrate that they just don't have their act together. Many of the problems in Nevada came as a result of Sanders' people not showing up, not getting proper certification, etc. Now in PR they submit their list at the last minute and throw a tantrum that it isn't approved retroactively.

I have come to believe had this been ANYONE other than Hillary, M$M would have been telling the Bern to go home a long time ago, but RATINGS win and calling horse races is easier than investigating issues and positions, so we have a silly old man unwilling to call it a day and a group of supporters who can't do basic math and being fed so much conspiracy nonsense that it is frightening.

Cha

(297,027 posts)
23. BS' PR STunts are ENDLESS! He'll still be pulling them from the Senate!!!!!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jun 2016

Gracias, savalez!

burnie

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
30. Breaking the law to show it's possible is still breaking the law.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jun 2016

Sorry, but this is the same excuse used when the Sanders campaign hacked the DNC database.

caquillo

(521 posts)
29. Wait, what?!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jun 2016
He also accused the Sanders campaign of stealing two boxes of ballots that had been cast by prisoners before delivering them to an election office.


Isn't that illegal?
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