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Native

(5,936 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:37 AM Jun 2016

It’s time to admit Hillary Clinton is an extraordinarily talented politician

"Hillary Clinton is a generationally talented politician — albeit across a different set of dimensions than men tend to be talented politicians...."

A campaign of relationships, not speeches...When Sanders's supporters argue that the election was rigged against their candidate, this is what they are talking about. Sanders, they feel, did what you normally have to do to win an election: He generated more enthusiasm, brought in more voters, raised more money, gave better speeches, and polled higher in head-to-head matchups against the Republican candidate. It was only Clinton's pact with the Democratic establishment that stopped his rise.

In this telling, the way Clinton won the primary is the reason her victory feels hollow: It was nearly preordained, and the seriousness of the challenge Sanders posed just shows what a flawed candidate she really is.

But another way to look at the primary is that Clinton employed a less masculine strategy to win. She won the Democratic primary by spending years slowly, assiduously, building relationships with the entire Democratic Party. She relied on a more traditionally female approach to leadership: creating coalitions, finding common ground, and winning over allies. Today, 523 governors and members of Congress have endorsed Clinton; 13 have endorsed Sanders.

This work is a grind — it's not big speeches, it doesn't come with wide applause, and it requires an emotional toughness most human beings can't summon.


http://www.vox.com/2016/6/7/11879728/hillary-clinton-wins-nomination

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It’s time to admit Hillary Clinton is an extraordinarily talented politician (Original Post) Native Jun 2016 OP
Sanders seems to have honestly believed he could win a national election with almost no planning TwilightZone Jun 2016 #1
So true, and Native Jun 2016 #2
Her reaction to losing to Obama was nothing but remarkable to me. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #6
KNR Lucinda Jun 2016 #3
Hillary is a talented politican who has a good agenda and listens to the voters. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #4
k and r, with thanks. niyad Jun 2016 #5

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
1. Sanders seems to have honestly believed he could win a national election with almost no planning
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jun 2016

and very little infrastructure.

25 years ago, he was talking about developing a political infrastructure as the basis for a political movement.

25 years later, he's still talking about it.

Native

(5,936 posts)
2. So true, and
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016
...Clinton is arguably better at that than anyone in American politics today. In 2000, she won a Senate seat that meant serving amidst Republicans who had destroyed her health care bill and sought to impeach her husband. And she kept her head down, found common ground, and won them over.

"We have become, actually, good friends," said Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who served as one of the Republican prosecutors during impeachment. "And that was a surprise to both of us."

And Clinton isn't just better — she's relentless. After losing to Barack Obama, she rebuilt those relationships, campaigning hard for him in the general, serving as his secretary of state, reaching out to longtime allies who had crushed her campaign by endorsing him over her.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
6. Her reaction to losing to Obama was nothing but remarkable to me.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jun 2016

That primary cycle was absolutely brutal - perhaps even more so than this one - yet she endorsed and campaigned like mad for her bitter rival, served in his administration, and here she is, in position to succeed him.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Hillary is a talented politican who has a good agenda and listens to the voters.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jun 2016

Lots of talking points which are easily debunked on her stand on the issues, and she is a progressive who gets things done.

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