Sept 3 new PPPolling: 2016 General Election Match Ups Close {Hillary Grp]

[riversedge]

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls 5m5 minutes ago

Trump is now doing better against Democrats than the 'electable' trio of Bush/Rubio/Walker: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/09/2016-general-election-match-ups-close.html …


September 03, 2015
2016 General Election Match Ups Close

PPP's newest national poll finds that Hillary Clinton generally holds modest leads over the Republican field for President, with Ben Carson faring the strongest among the GOP hopefuls.

Carson earns a tie with Clinton at 44%, and he actually leads Bernie Sanders 42/36 in a head to head. Carson is the only declared candidate with a positive favorability rating- 41% of voters nationally see him positively to only 30% who have a negative opinion. He earns a tie with Clinton on the basis of a 43/35 advantage with independents.

The other candidates who come really close to Clinton are Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina, who are each down by just 2. Fiorina trails Clinton 45/43, and is down 39/38 to Sanders. Trump is down just 2 points as well at 46/44, and he leads Sanders 43/42. It used to be that nominating Trump looked like it would be an unmitigated disaster for the GOP but as he's gotten stronger in Republican polls, he's also gotten stronger in general election polling and is now doing better against Clinton than the perceived 'electable' candidate trio of Bush, Rubio, and Walker. Interestingly Joe Biden actually does far better than both Clinton and Sanders against Trump, with a 6 point advantage at 47/41. Biden joins Carson as the second person with a positive rating in this poll at 43/40.

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We tested Jeb Bush against Clinton, Sanders, and Biden to get a sense of their relative strength as general election candidates. Clinton (a 4 point lead over Bush at 46/42) and Biden (a 3 point lead over Bush at 44/41) do quite similarly. Sanders does a little bit worse, trailing Bush by a point at 41/40...........

[Agschmid]

1. I'm not convinced Bush will be the nominee.

[Tommy2Tone]

2. I took these quotes from a Forward Progressive story on Carson

1. “You know Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery” – 2013 at the Values Voter Summit

2. “Well, my thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality. It doesn’t matter what they are. They don’t get to change the definition.” – 2013 on Fox News’ Hannity

3. “There comes a time when people with values simply have to stand up. Think about Nazi Germany. Most of those people did not believe in what Hitler was doing. But did they speak up? Did they stand up for what they believe in? They did not, and you saw what happened.” - Carson comparing Democrats and those who voted for President Obama to Nazis.

4. “Because 9/11 is an isolated incident. Things that are isolated issues as opposed to things that fundamentally change the United Sates of America and shift power from the people to the government. That is a huge shift. You have to take a long-term look at something that fundamentally changes the power structure of America.” - Carson claiming that “Obamacare” is worse than 9/11 5.

5. “A lot of people who go into prison straight, and when they come out they’re gay.” – CNN interview on March 4, 2015

Read more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/5-ben-carson-quotes-proving-hes-too-crazy-to-be-president/

[ismnotwasm]

3. Yeah--he looks good

And he's well educated, but he's crazy and I can't see him appealing to anything but the craziest of republicans. Could be wrong of course

[riversedge]

4. yes, Carson is one scary dude

But, would Republicans really put him up as their nominee given the racism within their party. ??

[Tommy2Tone]

8. I don't think so

It will come down to whether they hate Hillary more than the black guy.

[riversedge]

9. umm..

that would be a toss up would it not??

[ladym55]

5. And let's not forget

Carson's bright idea on taxes--making them a "tithe," and his suggestion to use drones on US soil to bomb illegal immigrants. (Or as Charlie Pierce puts it--wonder how El Paso will feel when the feds miss and blow up a middle school)

[ladym55]

6. We are really still far out

My biggest concern is Kasich as a nominee. When progressives in the media are cooing about him being a moderate (I'm talking to you John Nichols and Joan Walsh), he could be a real problem in the general election.

Kasich is a nasty man and has been an appalling governor (not as bad as Scott Walker, I'll grant you), but he keeps getting all sorts of positive press about being a moderate.

[riversedge]

7. I am with you on this. The day that Kasich was going to annouce his

run--I literally groaned out loud.