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Hillary Clinton Did Not Break Law In Deleting Emails, DOJ Says
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"There is no question that Secretary Clinton had authority to delete personal emails without agency supervision - she appropriately could have done so even if she were working on a government server," Department of Justice lawyers told a judge.
By Taylor Tyler | Sep 10, 2015 12:20 PM EDT
Hillary Clinton
"Under policies issued by both the National Archives and Records Administration ('NARA') and the State Department, individual officers and employees are permitted and expected to exercise judgment to determine what constitutes a federal record," Justice Department lawyers said. (Photo : Twitter Photo Section)
U.S. Justice Department lawyers told a federal court Wednesday that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's use of a private email account was not against the law, nor was it illegal for her to unilaterally determine which messages were considered work-related and necessary to return to the State Department for record keeping.
"There is no question that Secretary Clinton had authority to delete personal emails without agency supervision - she appropriately could have done so even if she were working on a government server," the administration lawyers argued in what was the strongest legal defense yet of the nation's former top diplomat, according to The Washington Times. "Under policies issued by both the National Archives and Records Administration ('NARA') and the State Department, individual officers and employees are permitted and expected to exercise judgment to determine what constitutes a federal record."
The legal brief said it is up to employees to "review each message, identify its value and either delete it or move it to a record-keeping system."
The lawyers insisted they have no power or obligation to demand that Clinton hand over documents she has not already provided.
CincyDem
(6,351 posts)I hope the R's choke on it.
planetc
(7,805 posts)There is a whole set of ranked reservations and insults the media use when their initial charges blow away like smoke. We have the Clintons "stonewalling" if they don't turn over records as fast as their enemies want them to, or there aren't any records. So, they start out by stonewalling, but, if there's nothing either to talk about or to conceal, then they aren't handling the media correctly, or have "blamed the media." "Blaming the media" always looks like whining, even if the media are clearly entirely responsible for the accusation du jour. The "vast right wing conspiracy" is entirely real and well documented. What the media never consider is how much amplification they're giving the right wing conspirators, because if there's anything the matter at all, it's the Clintons' fault, not theirs. Nothing, but nothing, is ever the fault of the media, especially the NYTimes. Okay, that's a summary of the current state of play in the Great Game of Get the Clintons. I now return you to our regularly scheduled activities.
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)I have seen a fair amount of D's and of course the NY Times and other rags have made it a quest to bring down Hillary.
Cha
(297,138 posts)Outrage wagon.
Gothmog
(145,129 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)determined to destroy her.
I think they are going to do it and I think we will get a con WH and Senate and House as a result and I hope I live long enough to see the death, destruction and chaos that will follow.
I want to see it, I want to say "I told you so" if there is a DU allowed to exist where I can say it.
But net neutrality will be a thing of the past so DU wont exist and if it does you wont be able to get a page to turn over.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Breaking laws as Joe Scarborough claims, it must be Joe Scarborough who isn't trustworthy.
riversedge
(70,186 posts)You know that--that I know.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,007 posts)Gloria
(17,663 posts)disappear as if nothing came out.
But, I'm sure the campaign will now use it....as they should.
riversedge
(70,186 posts)cited a lot. Strange. After seeing the article announced on twitter I googled it but as I said, as of a few hours ago not much out there considered Hillary's email is on the news 24/7
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)Being a Texan I sure miss Ann and love your profile pic.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)They just won't be so surprised this time.
msrizzo
(796 posts)The usual suspects (Morning Joe, NYT, et al) will tell us shortly why this doesn't mean what we think it means. There's a law broken in there somewhere and they will not rest until they find it!
msrizzo
(796 posts)I won't hold my breath for NBC, ABC, CNN, etc. to cover it.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/11/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-crumbles-justice-department-laws-broken.html
riversedge
(70,186 posts)it rather odd that not covered (barely--I found the OP via google) by major news outlets. I went looking cause I did not want to site Washington Times.
DeepModem Mom
(38,402 posts)BuzzFeed. Not enough! AP, more have it now. Haven't looked to see if shameful NYT folks are covering.
riversedge
(70,186 posts)Cha
(297,138 posts)riversedge
(70,186 posts)http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article34977387.html
National
September 11, 2015
Justice Department: Clinton had right to delete personal emails
Conservative group fights for preservation order from federal judge
Clinton followed an appropriate procedure, Justice Department lawyers argue
Do Clintons personal emails even still exist?
Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., chairman of the House Benghazi Committee whose investigation sparked the furor over Hillary Clintons emails, oversaw a closed interview with Friday with Cheryl Mills, Clintons former chief of staff.
Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., chairman of the House Benghazi Committee whose investigation sparked the furor over Hillary Clintons emails, oversaw a closed interview with Friday with Cheryl Mills, Clintons former chief of staff. HARRER BLOOMBERG NEWS
By Greg Gordon
ggordon@mcclatchydc.com
WASHINGTON
The Obama administration has forcefully defended former Secretary of State Hillary Clintons right to delete over 31,000 emails from her private server and says the State Department has no obligation to try to recover them.
There is no question that former Secretary Clinton had authority to delete personal emails without agency supervision she appropriately could have done so even if she were working on a government server, lawyers for the Justice Departments Civil Division wrote in a federal court brief that drew little notice when it was filed Wednesday.
But Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, one of a number of conservative-leaning groups suing over the emails, said Friday that the Justice Department is out to lunch because the emails on Clintons account effectively belonged to the government.
This is jaw dropping, he said.
............
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article34977387.html#storylink=cpy
DeepModem Mom
(38,402 posts)media-site shaming, folks.
Kath1
(4,309 posts)The truth comes out. Finally.
Thanks to all the twitter-shamers!
riversedge
(70,186 posts)trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)Kath1
(4,309 posts)Disgraceful.
riversedge
(70,186 posts)Here it is . short and sweet
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/doj--clinton-within-law-to-delete-emails-524100163553?cid=sm_tw_msnbc
All In with Chris Hayes 9/11/15
Justice Department: Clinton within law to delete emails
Yesterday -- though practically no one in the media noticed, we got the best indication yet, from the Department of Justice, that Hillary Clinton did not violate the law when she deleted personal emails. Duration: 1:40
riversedge
(70,186 posts)great photo with it...
MSNBC @MSNBC 2h2 hours ago
Justice Department: Hillary Clinton within law to delete emails: http://on.msnbc.com/1K287Aw (Getty)
Kath1
(4,309 posts)Didn't see that in the media today. What a shock.