Charlie Pierce: Reports of Hillary Clinton's Demise Are Greatly Exaggerated

[mcar]

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"The staff here at the Café is fascinated by the big buzz tout les 'Toobz this morning. It comes from the new CBS News/YouGov poll showing that Bernie Sanders is ahead of Hillary Rodham Clinton in Iowa and running away over the far horizon from her in New Hampshire. The staff shrugs its shoulders and wanders off to wait on the lunch rush...

On-line polls, even well-wrought ones, are inherently dubious. On-line polls conducted in September when nobody really votes for anyone until February are the approximate equivalent of throwing rubber-tipped darts at a cast-iron dartboard. And, not for nothing, but why is Joe Biden even in this polling model? He's not running. The odds are no better than 50-50 that he will, despite the fondest dreams of the members of the campaign press and the major news operations that employ them. Why not throw Mitt Romney into the Republican survey?

Nobody's saying that the Clinton campaign isn't stuck in the mud a bit right now. But the diagnoses of imminent catastrophe seem premature."

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a37921/hillary-demise-greatly-exaggerated/

[Thinkingabout]

1. I thought it was interesting Morning Joe had a conversation with themselves saying they do know

Where Hillary stands on the issues, but when you continuously say Benghazi and email over and over it prevents the brain from being receptive to what Hillary is saying on the issues. Too many Benghazi and email cob webs.

[mcar]

2. Very true

Maybe the media should start actually looking at candidates' positions rather than "scandal" and reality TV.

[Thinkingabout]

3. That would be a start. If msm spent as much time finding facts rather than RW manufactured talking

I could believe more.

[mcar]

4. They are awful Thinkingabout

It's embarrassing, really.

[Gothmog]

5. That is a great article

[mcar]

6. Thanks Goth

I love Pierce. He usually gets to the heart of things.

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. They're including Joe Biden for the same reason they kept polling Elizabeth Warren, after she....

adamantly stated that she was not running. The M$M loves to pick the candidates, and they love a horserace. The more candidates, the more ad spending. It all comes back to money for the media.

I love Uncle Joe, but if he ever seriously thought about making a run, he's left himself very little time to get up & running. Oh, and thanks for posting this reality check.

[mcar]

8. My pleasure

I agree completely - they want the horse race, no matter what.

I too love Joe Biden. He deserves honor and accolades for his service to this country. I want him to have a long, happy retirement, perhaps advising President HRC.