Sad that the term Billary is now allowed on DU. HRC Room.

[hrmjustin]

Survived a jury 2 to 5.

Would post the results but another hide would silence me.

[workinclasszero]

1. Yes its sad that DU has beccome

an anti-democratic party website.

[hrmjustin]

4. It is now ok to call good Democratic party members names now.

Yet in that thread the op eho is an hrc supporter is now flagged.

I was also baited in that thread and called the poster put for doing it.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=652541

[workinclasszero]

12. All I can say is hang in there.

Bernie has gone as far as hes ever going to go which is way way short of winning the democratic nomination.

As soon as super tuesday rolls around next year we will see the end of anti democratic party crap here.

[hrmjustin]

13. I hope there is some cleaning house.

[workinclasszero]

16. We will see I guess

On a daily basis you see post from Bernie backers promising they will never vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination.

They usually have many recs and lots of affirmative responses.

I hope the owners step up and do the right thing, we'll see.

[hrmjustin]

18. Which makes me question if they are really Democrats and Sander supporters.

[workinclasszero]

21. If it looks like a duck, squawks like a duck,

walks like a duck...well yeah.

[brer cat]

37. I respect you for wading into that cesspool

and trying, Justin. I trashed GDP and only read a little occasionally when a thread is linked as you did above. I cannot read through all that crap.

As much as Skinner denies it, the jury results are "anything goes" for Bernie supporters and "hide upon request" if it is a HRC supporter. There are way too many Bernie supporters who haven't progressed from middle school, and still think they are bmoc.

[hrmjustin]

39. They pissed ,e off today because they do everything to silence criticism of Sanders.

I know they will come after me with alerts but they need to be challenged.

[Tommy2Tone]

63. It's because Bernie fans are not democrats

Just ask them

[hrmjustin]

64. A lot of Greens and independents among them.

[Tommy2Tone]

65. Most Bernie supporters will come around and support Hillary in the General

Not the ones here

[hrmjustin]

66. Agreed and after super Tuesday it will get interesting here.

[Dawson Leery]

2. That person should be banned from the Hillary forum.

[hrmjustin]

6. It was in gdp.

But if the poster posts in this room absolutely.

[riversedge]

3. I really do not understand how a Democratic candidate can be so vilied on a Dem board.

[hrmjustin]

5. Peer pressure and infiltration by trolls.

[workinclasszero]

8. Me either

But its been rampant here for months

[MADem]

7. Astounding.

Given that Sanders' wife has worked as his Chief of Staff, his Public Relations assistant, AND one of his campaign managers (for which she was compensated in his last run), I wonder how people would feel if we snarkily combined their names.

It's just so pointless to be childish in that way--so "that other site."

[hrmjustin]

9. It would be hidden 7 to 0.

Hypocrisy and peer pressure is on full display here.

[MADem]

10. It is a bit freakish, the sensitivity and anger.

Eh, what can ya do?

Wonder if the admins are thinking about selling this mess before it combusts?

[hrmjustin]

11. I doubt it but i saw somewhere they were making changes to the jury system soon.

[MADem]

14. I do know that they are getting rid of jury eligibility for those who get abusive in their

jury comments. No need to be nasty, but some people are.

[hrmjustin]

15. Yes and amazing who those people were.

Those who like to preach to us.

[workinclasszero]

22. The jury system is the biggest joke of all on DU

I was compared to a pig on this "democratic party forum" and a jury voted 6 to 7 I think, one vote for me, that they were ok with it.

Because I support Hillary of course.

[hrmjustin]

23. Peer pressure and they have the numbers to bully us.

[workinclasszero]

25. Right every jury is packed with Bernie

supporters.

Guess what happens 99 and 9/10ths of the time?

Yeah.

[hrmjustin]

27. Well to be fair many Sanders supporters get votes right.

When i got hides a few of my leaves were from Sanders supporters.

But when 85 percent of the active posters are Sanders supporters they have the numbers.

[workinclasszero]

30. Sure one fair Bernie backer was on my side

The majority were good with me being compared to a pig though so it was a cold comfort.

[hrmjustin]

31. That is disgraceful that they did that to you.

I get some clever responses that are digs that i could appreciate and don't want hidden but name calling should be hidden.

[workinclasszero]

32. Yeah I just shook my head in disgust at what this place has become

And Bernie of course has come out and said he doesn't hate Hillary and neither do his backers. x1000

Apparently Bernie has never heard of the democratic underground site LOLZ

[hrmjustin]

34. I can take criticism of HRC but what goes on here is something else.

[MADem]

52. It would be an interesting exercise to collect some of the more egregious

comments that are made about her, link and quote, to have a permanent record that can't be wiped clean -- and to perhaps understand who needs to be avoided to improve our experience here.

[Lisa D]

17. Disgusting.

But, sadly, not surprising.

[shenmue]

19. Yes

[hrmjustin]

20. Sad indeed.

[NanceGreggs]

24. Well, what do you expect ...

... from a "Democratic" site that has not only allowed the most vile things to be said about Democrats on a daily basis - but is in fact so proud of those vile things, they wind up on the Home Page?

Have you ever wondered what kind of newbies this site attracts, when the first thing someone new to the site sees is the anti-Dem rhetoric that greets them on their first contact with DU?

I keep wondering how many actual Democrats are still here. I'm sure that if you could magically erase all non-Dems from DU, you'd just see a bunch of tumbleweeds blowing across your monitor when you logged-in.

[hrmjustin]

26. I may get a hide for this but i don't care but I think these many of these people who say...

... they won't vote for or Hillary are Republican trolls.

[NanceGreggs]

35. Well, you've got that right.

They are.

They're Republicans, Paulbots, Libertarians - and they've taken over DU.

[hrmjustin]

36. Yes and it is allowed.

[NanceGreggs]

38. The REAL question is ...

... what isn't allowed here nowadays?

And all the while the worst anti-Dem bullshit is posted here, day-in-day-out, Skinner just stands there going - because according to him, he has absolutely no control over what gets posted on the site he wholly owns. It's those damned juries and their "community standards" that are to blame.

[hrmjustin]

40. Challenging Sanders supporters is apparently not allowed.

Criticism of Sanders is apparently a sin now.

Heartbreaking for a place I love.

[NanceGreggs]

41. I loved DU ...

... when it was a gathering place for Democrats.

Now it's a gathering place for anti-Democrats - and they can have it.

A LOT of the alleged BS supporters here are NOT Democrats. They use their "I'm a BS supporter" meme to cover their asses while they post anti-Dem bullshit all day long.

[hrmjustin]

42. Yes. We have a lot of moles running around they place.

They can hide my posts but it can't hide the fact we have too many moles.

[Cha]

67. Taking their cues from their leader.

[treestar]

61. They saw what they could do with the jury system

probably encouraged other freepers, etc. to join.

[cheapdate]

28. Off topic but regarding the jury system...

I've lost some truly absurd jury decisions.

I would like the opportunity to reply to the alerter's comments so that the jury sees both the alerter's charge and the alertee's response.

The alertee couldn't post again (anywhere) until she answered the charge.

[hrmjustin]

29. Interesting idea but doubt they will do it.

[cheapdate]

33. I've had juries

that apparently read the alerter's absurd charges and just knee-jerked "Oh Hell No!" without thinking.

Not only would I like the chance to answer the charge before it's given to a jury, but I'd like to see other defendants do that as well.

[thesquanderer]

43. It's nothing new.

Google "billary" within the DU site, I got 8790 hits. So it is not "now" allowed, it goes back at least to 2008 (just from the first page of results).

[SunSeeker]

45. It is still not OK on a Democratic site.

Nor is it OK for you to come and disrupt in the DU Hillary supporter safe haven. You are not a Hillary supporter. You have the entire rest of the site to spread your anti-Hillary message. Hell, you have the whole internet. I see awful, incorrect posts in the Bernie group all the time. But I do not go in there to correct them. That is their safe haven. It would be rude, and I believe in the Golden Rule.

[thesquanderer]

46. There was nothing anti-Hillary in my post.

I did not defend the use of the term. I would not use that term.

[SunSeeker]

47. You came here to disrupt, not to support Hillary. nt

[thesquanderer]

48. I did not come here to disrupt.

I read stuff from all areas. Especially if it's on the front page. I didn't specifically head for the Hillary group, I just clicked on a link that caught my attention, and it happened to be here. I do check to see if it's a group before I reply with anything negative about the group's topic, but I did not think I was saying anything negative about Hillary, so I thought it would be okay to comment. Maybe I misunderstand the rules? I thought I was just making a fair observation, I didn't think it would get under anyone's skin.

[William769]

49. The problem has been taken care of.

[TrollBuster9090]

44. I don't use the term, but personally I'm a fan of Hilary Clinton, and I don't mind it.

I think Bill and Hilary governed as a team during Bill's term (Hilarycare a good example, as well as her trip to China etc.), they did a good job, and I'd gladly look forward to a repeat of it. "Billary" works as a description of a good team. But I guess we could update it to "Hilliam" or something, in honor of which one of them is heading the ticket this time.

[William769]

50. It's used as a derogatory term and will not be tolerated in this Group. No exceptions.

[Cha]

53. It is used derogatorily.. it's blatantly sexist for one thing.. it says everything about those

using it and absolutely nothing about Hillary or President Clinton.

Thank you, Bill.

[Lisa D]

58. ^^THIS^^

[TrollBuster9090]

59. If it's used specifically in reference to Hilary, then yes, I'd agree it's absolutely derogatory.nt

[William769]

60. See my original post. nt

[malokvale77]

51. Huh?

Sorry, I was going to reply before I realized what group this was.

Carry on.

[stonecutter357]

54. It's the stench of Libertarians.

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[Cha]

55. That and this..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=20407

[onehandle]

56. Meh. Far worse is allowed at AntiDemocratic Underground.

I'm looking forward to our first First Gentleman.

[Gothmog]

57. Yes, this is very very sad

[Tommy2Tone]

62. I used BernieBots and jury took it down

Double standard me thinks.

[ronnykmarshall]

68. Do you have a link to that thread?

I brought up that term and wanted to pass that result on.

[hrmjustin]

69. Here you go.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=652561

[ronnykmarshall]

70. Thank you!!!

and go METS!

[hrmjustin]

71. Yes!

[GusBob]

72. O-7 leave by jury on this post

There's no alert stalking, sure......

[hrmjustin]

73. They alerted on me? They are truely trying to silence me.

Thanks.

[GusBob]

75. See post 12 upthread

Hang in there

[Cha]

74. Oh how sad ... they didn't want the thread shown and alerted on it.. oh.. :(

[upaloopa]

76. We got "Hildibeast" also tonight

Before tonight I only saw that on Freerepublic.

[hrmjustin]

77. Send me a link via pm.they are alert happy tonight.

Thanks.

[upaloopa]

78. I sent a PM with the link I think

I am hopelessly technologically challenged.

[yallerdawg]

79. Justin, you know it is batshit crazy out there.

The Hillary-hate is a bar to any argument. We might as well be on a Republican blog pointlessly arguing.

When Hillary is the nominee, I expect there will be an epic housecleaning.

This is a Democratic website - isn't it?

[hrmjustin]

80. Well one was open to me easlier this year and said she would avoid election threads

if Hillary wins and vote green.


I suspect that is what many will do .

[Lil Missy]

81. DU has become la-la land. But ......

Patience, grasshopper.

We will get the last laugh.

[Walk away]

82. When you combine Bernie supporters and people who just don't care....

...you get the lowest common denominator. Expecting more is futile. Wait a few months and it won't be allowed anymore. You can't tear down the Democratic candidate when the loser finally drops out.