I am amazed by the "how terrible PP was to endorse Hillary"

[still_one]

along with some of the criticisms to the effect that PP should not have been political. Gee, I wonder what they would have said if PP endorsed Sander's? No doubt in my mind it would NOT have been critical of PP being political

So the alternative is to spew out a yellow journalistic piece how there is such a backlash against PP for doing such a thing. I would venture to say maybe among a few less than mature entities who may not actually care as much about women's health issues as they profess

[Historic NY]

1. This was their first endorsement ever and Hillary Clinton stepped up to the plate...

to support them immediately when they were under attack, others not so much.

[FreakinDJ]

5. self delete

Really

[Historic NY]

7. So you say that not what she said....

the crony took a week .

[Hekate]

24. +1

[Tarheel_Dem]

61. I love it!

[Thinkingabout]

12. You are in the Hillary group.

[still_one]

8. I realize that, and that makes it even more significant

[leftofcool]

2. It's just another excuse for them to play Face Book Warrior

This will not hurt PP and will only help Hillary, thus the poutrage.

[still_one]

10. I agree

[Walk away]

20. Absolutely! Women care about PP, and people trashing it make their candidate look anti-women's...

health and rights.

I don't think Bernie will ever break through his 30% or so, but he would have done a little better if his supporters hadn't attacked almost every Democratic voting block all over the internet.

[leftofcool]

27. These Face Book nutbags don't get it!

Every time they destroy someone's FB page with nasty comments, it just turns people away form Bernie. Imagine how may friends Jane Goodall has in real life that she went to and said "don't vote for that Bernie guy, look at how his supporters act." This is exactly one of the big reasons Bernie is not getting endorsements from his colleagues. His colleagues don't like him, they don't like his supporters and they don't like his policies.

[Coolest Ranger]

69. Thank you

You get it. The personal insults, the attacks, the name calling the not accepting of reality, that's why I switched to Team Hillary.

[FreakinDJ]

3. what are you talking about

[still_one]

13. you don't know. How innocent

[Walk away]

30. It's hard to see with your eyes closed!!!

[still_one]

41. perfect

[fleabiscuit]

39. ??? Really? n/t

[mcar]

4. Sad to see

[Walk away]

6. I am trying not to believe that fellow Democrats can be so bitter and....

small. Attacking Planned Parenthood is pretty low. I suppose we will be seeing a lot worse until Super Tuesday.

[Historic NY]

9. +1

[BlueCaliDem]

70. True, but those attacking are not and have never been Democrats, although they'd like to call

themselves the "true Democrats" - which, again, they are not and have never been.

IMHO, every Democrat would and should be happy that PP, in their first ever endorsement, have endorsed a Democrat, not act like angry and envious Tea Partiers ready to do the online version of heckling.

[Walk away]

71. Several Sander's supporters are spouting that, Bernie will eliminate the need for Planned Parenthood

Because single payer will make PP unnecessary. It just highlights the level of intelligence of your average Bernie fan.

[BlueCaliDem]

72. Yep.

And then you go off speculating on conspiracy theories that have zero basis in fact. That doesn't speak well of them.

[Historic NY]

11. WTF are these people posting in our forumn.

Mods get out the shovel.

[still_one]

21. LOL

[William769]

29. We never put the shovel away.

Who would have thought that so much crap could be held?

[shenmue]

40. Yeah

[Starry Messenger]

14. They were ecstatic when PP published a pro-Bernie piece in November:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251766265

[still_one]

18. I guess that confirms my suspicion in the OP. Thanks

[Historic NY]

26. I took him a week to sit down and craft a message....

imagine that if he was POTUS and the world depended on it. BS was late to the party and has been late.

Where was he when Hillary was out around the globe, sitting it Vt or having lunch with Senator Jim Inhofe R. 81yrs old....his only friend.

[Starry Messenger]

33. No idea.

I have lots of issues that could have used allies on things he says he is strong on--but I never saw him out there.

[Cha]

56. Of course they were.

[mahina]

15. PP has every right to endorse whomever they wish, and I support them no matter what.

For what it's worth.

[still_one]

16. and so do I. They do excellent work for those in the community who need it most

[msrizzo]

52. Wish we could like posts on DU...

Cause I really like yours!

[Cha]

57. Mahalo mahina~

[mahina]

58. Aloha no Cha!

[Thinkingabout]

17. I ask the question to a Sanders supporter and was told it would have

Been ok if Sanders was endorsed by PP. Poster was honest and said it would have been okay if PP endorsed Sanders but not with the endorsement of Hillary. There is enough of the GOP attacking the PP, Democrats do not need to attack PP which assists those who are not as wealthy as others.

[still_one]

19. I respect the honesty, but disagree with the reasoning

[Thinkingabout]

22. Agree but at least the honesty was good to hear..

I was wondering if Sanders gets the nomination will PP be allowed to endorse him.

[still_one]

23. I think you and I already know the answer to that hypothetical

[Thinkingabout]

28. Yes, I know, as upset as some have been since thec

Endorsement they may want to complain about him getting the endorsement.

[SunSeeker]

25. Kinda shows PP PAC endorsed the right candidate, doesn't it? nt

[stevil]

31. It's a baby with the bathwater kind of thing

People are acting like this is the only thing the PP PAC has ever done for Democrats, they are just upset that their fave didn't get the nod. And they can't accept the reasons why either. Doubtful that anyone who REALLY supports PP via donation will drop support over this, like threatening to do so will change anyones minds. This is what I hate most about primary season.

Maybe this might have had something to do with the PP Endorsement decision?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/17/politics/planned-parenthood-video-bernie-sanders/index.html

[OilemFirchen]

32. Help me out here...

Has any Clinton supporter here ever attacked anyone for endorsing Sanders?

[leftofcool]

34. No, nor do we post nasty comments on FB pages.

Hillary would throw a fit if any of her supporters did anything like that.

[Walk away]

38. Does anyone endorse Bernie???

I doubt if I would attack a Bernie endorser but it has never come up. The few organizations or people that endorse him are pretty meaningless to most folks.

[still_one]

43. yes there are, and a few significant unions. My response was to Congratulate the Sanders'

campaign and supporters. CWA was one of the most significant.

[Walk away]

46. It's a short list! nt

[still_one]

47. yup

[FloridaBlues]

35. Why are you surprised or amazed?

They have been this way since the start. I've lost count how many people, unions and organizations has been thrown under the bus or their Facebook is overwhelmed with negativity.
This won't be the last.
Keep working to get her the nomination.
Phone bank, get with your local dem party.

[fleabiscuit]

36. Perhaps they should focus on a bigger problem...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

Just saying.

Just noticed this one: Moonlite BunnyRanch, brothel[523]

Now that's gold.

[BlueCaliDem]

64. Wowzer! Ben Affleck?? I thought for sure he'd be a Sanders supporter.

[fleabiscuit]

66. He's a Democrat.

For some that matters.

[Walk away]

37. Bernie supporters are claiming that Hillary bought the endorsement by giving Cecile Richard's...

daughter a job with her campaign. It on twitter. How desperate are Bernie and his Fan Club??? Or do they actually believe this pathetic claim????

I believe this reflects on the type of people supporting Sanders in a terrible way. It's not just wrong, it's ridiculous!!!

Keep it up Bernie! This is a loser's strategy. You alienated the African American community and now you are after Liberal Women!!!!!

[shenmue]

42. Oh yeah

[still_one]

67. unfortunately I have seen that. It is very sad that some are resorting to that

[mike_c]

44. I'm disappointed in their endorsement...

...but it doesn't affect my support for PP in any way. It is their right to make an endorsement. I wish they'd endorsed Senator Sanders, but I presume their board approached the matter seriously and deliberately. Good for PP!

[fleabiscuit]

62. But it can give one an excellent irony high.

I can imagine heads exploding on the R side over a nonprofit endorsing Hillary. What can they say?

Perhaps their pastors can dish out a few sermons about it while they enjoy a few tax exempt perks.

[still_one]

68. and that is the exact response I would have made if Bernie received the PP endorsement

In fact when Sanders received the CWA, ( Communications Workers of America ) endorsement, I congratulated the Sanders' supporters on the endorsement:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=906757

[still_one]

48. You do realize this is the Hillary group don't you?

[zentrum]

49. True. Missed that.

Even though it was a meta-comment about the appropriateness of endorsing any democratic candidate over another one before we have the nominee.
I didn't know that meta-observations could not be put in the HRC group.

[still_one]

50. This isn't a meta observation, and I suspected it was an inadvertent post which is why I pointed it

out. Take care

[Cha]

55. We don't need anyone coming into Hillary's Group and trying to tell us what's what. Just keep

that in mind.. and you won't get blocked.

I don't go into the BS group and tell them how to run their business.. because it is none of my business.

[kimbutgar]

51. I can't believe that people are outraged an organization that deals with women's issues is endorsing

Hillary. Well duh.....

[Gothmog]

53. I stand with Planned Parenthood

This was a great endorsement

[Cha]

54. Ya think!

Thank you, stillone~

I'm for Planned Parenthood and so is Hillary!



Blast from the Past~

The 2009 Planned Parenthood Federation of America Margaret Sanger Award, the organization’s highest honor, will be presented to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has been a champion of women’s health and rights throughout her public service career.

http://allthingshillaryclinton.blogspot.com/2009/03/planned-parenthood-honors-hillary.html

[Cary]

59. If there was any doubt about them it's now gone.

[synergie]

60. I commented in the Bernie Group to two people who were patting themselves on the back about

redirecting their PP donations to the Bernie presidential campaign, by pointing out the falsehood of their statements that " PP has plenty of money" (which I thought was just something stupid that the anti-choice and the rabidly right wing trolls said), and I was blocked from the group.

Are the Bernie people seriously this hypersensitive about being called out for what they're actually doing?

I've run into a few rather frothy Bernie Bruhs on several other progressive sites, but this is seriously disturbing.

Other than these guys in their little clique, silencing people who dare to venture into their clubhouse and not say one word about their candidate, but point out the consequences of their actions (namely poor people not getting care, and the HIV and other STD spikes that happen when PP isn't funded, in an era where we have mutli-drug resistant gonorrhea) and the basic confusion on how healthcare happens (apparently Bernie will ensure Universal Healthcare so PP won't even be needed) and they have all this money to employ people whose relatives happen to be working for Clinton ....

What is wrong with these people??? I honestly don't understand how supposedly "real progressives" can so blindly parrot right wing talking points with so little self awareness.

[still_one]

63. The special groups are not open groups, they are intended for supporters of a specific candidate,

and the administrators of those specific groups insure the rules.
Keep in mind that there are people on DU who are not Hillary supporters, and who are not pleased with the endorsement, that have also made it very clear that they oppose anyone who advocates to stop support of PP.

You are right, PP serves an extremely vital function to help those in the community, especially for those who need it the most, for all health issues, not just related to women, but for families as well.

Welcome aboard to DU.

Or to quote the late great Bette Davis:

"Fasten your seatbelts. It’s going to be a bumpy night.”

[Bryan]

65. It's disgraceful

HRC has a long and impressive record on women's health issues, and the more sensible Sanders folks are comfortable acknowledging that. The vocal fringe seem not to be acquainted with the idea that a candidate can be edged out with the support of a certain constituency and still be the best choice overall; no, they think their candidate trumps on every issue every time. It's an almost adolescent display of insecurity.