I am taking a break...

[BooScout]

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Not just a two or three day break this time. I am taking an extended vacation from here. I honestly just can't take it anymore. The negativity has gotten to me. This will probably be alerted on but I honestly don't care anymore.

I have just been accused in a pm of being responsible for the Jackass site...and I have also been told of a thread on DI where someone apparently has been accused of being a sock of mine and starting the site. I am trying to register at DI now to knock that ugly smear down and am waiting on a confirmation email.

I state now, absolutely and unequivocally that I have not one thing to do with that site. It's not my style and never will be. I am concerned with getting Hillary elected and talking with like minded people and debating the issues.

I just wanted you to know why I won't be around anymore....at least here. It's just not worth it.

[still_one]

1. I agree Boo, and it is really sad that this kind of scape goating is going on.

Joe McCarthy would be proud

[hrmjustin]

2. We are not wanted here.

Ever since I cam back on Friday I have been jumped on left and right.

And for the record I am not a member of that site myself and I am sorry they are harrasing you. I will stay away from DU most of the day until tonight but I have to limit my participation here for my own sanity. They jump on everything and keep lists of every sin you committed.

After 48 hours back I learned it is not worth the aggrevation. I said the word compromise and got scolded. I made the point Sanders raised no money for the party and is not into party buikding, and was told my point is stupid.

They want no criticism of Sanders here because they can't handle it. That is not healthy.

I'm sorry they are harrasing and trashing you. Peer pressure and petulance is big here now.

I will see you elsewhere and keep the faith in Hillary

!

[FarPoint]

65. I risk posting today...

Still holding my breath because the infection is so intense, a jury typically does not base a decision on rules but opinions.

[leftofcool]

3. Most of us are with you and no longer support this site.

Someday, maybe this place will become Democratic Underground again. In the mean time, the Bernie people can have it. There are better places to go to discuss real issues. DU has not been the ultimate posting place for Democrats in a long time. New forums have sprung up all over the net where people actually kick around ideas, where our current President is respected, where Democrats are honored and respected, where Face Book warriors don't fly around the internet bullying good people like John Lewis. I think Skinner is just now realizing what he has let this place become. I see no reason to support this place any longer with either my time or my money. My money is better served sent to good hard working Democrats and various charities supported by good Democrats. We should spend our time working to get Democrats elected to office.

[classykaren]

4. Wow

[MeNMyVolt]

14. Well said. And K&R for Boo's OP.

[George II]

28. Well said. Just look at the home page right now:

Under "Trending Now:"

Hillary Clinton, Saudi Arabia and Weapons Manufacturers.
28 recs : By EdwardBernays

Float an attack. Get it out there, then deny it.
27 recs : By cali

Under "Greatest Threads":

Robert Reich: Responses to Bernie SKEPTICS
199 recs : By Segami

Bernie CAN'T do it!
170 recs : By hootinholler

The Clinton argument "stripped to its essence".....by a fairly neutral observer.
148 recs : By madfloridian

Bernie's team addresses the personal attact on Bernie's health
129 recs : By MelissaB

[enid602]

38. Telesur

DU is looking more and more like Telesur.

[NBachers]

31. Please point me to these new forums that have sprung up all over the net.

I've loved Sanders since I first heard him on Brunch With Bernie on Ed Schultz. But supporters here have become an insufferable pack of jackals. They'll be worse if he wins the primaries; they'll be worse if he doesn't win the primaries.

I really have to consider here whether I want to identify myself as a supporter of President Obama. What's up with that?

I'm looking for an alternate dose of sanity.

[Glamrock]

76. Not Ed Schultz

Thom Hartman did brunch with Bernie.

[Hortensis]

34. I do want the Democratic Underground people say

it once was. I don't mind a little anger and mud-slinging, it's important to have a hefty component of strong disagreement, but not like it is here now. Intelligent discussion is constantly derailed, in those threads where it is taking place at all.

[Treant]

44. Could you tell us

which sites you favor? I've had it with DU as well.

[comradebillyboy]

72. Could you provide some links to those other sites...thx

[joeybee12]

5. good luck. I don't blame you

The vitriol is hard to take

[Hortensis]

6. Sorry for all this, BooScout. It's a good idea

anyway, and I'm considering doing so myself. The constant extremist attacks and silly yammering on the main forums are very unpleasant and distracting. I was just noting how relatively calm and sensible a subforum where they are not welcome is.

[OKNancy]

8. May I suggest.........

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/index.php

[MeNMyVolt]

23. Seconded.

[William769]

25. Excellent suggestion.

[Hortensis]

33. That sounds nice, guys. Do you actually discuss,

you know, politics, the upcoming general election, and so on over there?

[William769]

36. Why don't you pop over there & take a look.

You don't need to register to read.

[Walk away]

43. It's a great site! Certainly the best and the brightest that used to post here....

are now happily ensconced there!

[Treant]

45. See you there! (EM)

[trueblue2007]

80. thank you.

[Walk away]

7. Excellent decision!

I come hear to read the posts and go elsewhere to discuss them. I don't need to be a member to do that. And there isn't anything anyone can do about it.

The sad thing about you being harassed, is that you are much too sweet and serious to be involved in the Jackass site. But you won't have much more trouble if you leave here and spend your time on the wonderful Hillary support sites available. Methinks the attention spans of your attackers are about as short as their sightedness!

Everyone here who cares about you will still be spending plenty of time with you. There's nothing here of value. You are taking the best of it with you.

p.s. I know that you aren't a fan of Jackass but I think it's hilarious!

[BlueMTexpat]

9. So sorry to hear that!

There is much that is a complete turn-off lately. But I still love this site.

[Hortensis]

37. Agree it's too valuable to abandon.

[workinclasszero]

10. Same here

I want to post on a site that represents democrats and the party.

I'm tired of the constant harassment of people that don't tow the line for pie in the sky BS.

Ill see what happens after Super Tuesday but I'm really soured on DU as a place where liberal democrats can get together.

Its more like a cult site now that just wants to burn all of us "heretics" at the stake.

Screw it, I'm not playing this game anymore.

Take care BooScout

[oasis]

11. Although a couple of THEIR heavy hitters are gone now,but I understand

the cumulative damage has already been done. When you do return, I'm hoping you will feel refreshed and renewed for the battle ahead.

[Laurian]

12. Although regrettable, your decision is understandable.

I have resisted using a Hillary avatar because I know it would lead to a targeting of my opinions. I have hidden GDP and the BS group, but so many of those OP's show up on the home page that it's hard to totally avoid them.

I have been here since DU's beginning and while I don't post often, I do read this site daily. I always participate in juries when summoned in the hopes of restoring some fairness, but even that feels like an exercise in futility.

All the best to you and I hope you will feel able to return after a break.

[BlueJazz]

13. Speaking only for myself, I still love this site but have learned not to visit General Discussion..

,.../politics on a regular basis. The animosity between the various supporters can sometimes turn into a personal attack.

If you do go...I'll certainly miss you.

[dragonfly301]

15. Wish you well

I used to spend many hours a day on DailyKos, realized it wasn't making me happy and GBCW'd. It was the best thing I ever did. There is a whole big world out there that I needed to explore, exercise classes to take, family members and friends to talk to. Now that primary season is here, I read DU because I don't know anyone's past history or alliances and I don't want to know. I rarely comment and spend just a few minutes scanning the headlines. It is enough to get me up to date and my blood pressure is so much lower than it was in 2007-08! Take your break and get happy!

Oh, before you go on break can you tell me what DI is?

[santafe52]

16. I don't think you can do that.

With Jon Stewart's Daily Show no longer on the air, if you quit DU, where will you get your news?

The explosion of anti-Hillary, anti-Bill, anti-Obama crap on this site is pretty hard to have to sort through every day, but I get most of my news info from DU in spite of it. Without DU, I'd be lost.

Good luck but don't lose touch! In the end, we all need to band together against our REAL enemies.

[FloridaBlues]

17. It's like a bunch of spoiled kids in DU

I agree boo scout this site is outta control with the over the top attacks if you write anything.
all the good people and groups supporting HRC get raked over the coal.
Over it.

[synergie]

39. It's not just DU, these bullies are everywhere, and it seems like the same group of people.

I recognize the screen names, they savage anyone who dares to not agree with them, and take over every thread with their anti-Hillary ranting and conspiracy theories. You guys are my respite from the psychos!

[Walk away]

24. I don't mean to be rude but...

You get your news on DU? Yikes!

[MarianJack]

18. I have been annoyed at how this site...

...has been allowed to become "BernieUnderground" with a litmus test of blind loyalty to a candidate whom has never been, isn't now, and never will be, a Democrat. Their skins are also WAY too thin to EVER be even competitive in a general election. President Crhz? President Rump? President Rubio, or Cristy, or (GASP) BUSH??? NO THA YOU!!!

Hopefully sanity will eventually return.

PEACE!

[synergie]

40. Were they not like this during 2008? I had to leave it because it was getting too ugly back then

and I think I was just reading things back then. This place and these people are completely insane. So much for the Dems being the adults in the room.

[Hortensis]

47. Who says they're Democrats? A few are, MANY are not,

as evidenced by constant attacks on the party and policies by people who refer to Democrats as "you," "they," "them" at the clean end and degrading to outright obscenties at the other.

[synergie]

50. You make an excellent point, though not one I can make, since I'm

technically registered as an Independent. :-D

I haven't been here long enough recently to really say anything about the DU members, though I was blocked from the BS group for chiding people about their anti PP rants (before I had my first ten posts, but really I was just soooo ticked off by their parroting of anti-choice talking points grrrrr!), so I experienced first hand how thin skinned they are here. But they're literally everywhere on disqus, I was literally mobbed several times this week, but the same little clique who swarmed at me cussing me out, hurling the ad homimens, etc. I didn't even say anything about Hillary, I was just asking why they were posting things right wing talking points and not talking about the issues if they wished to support Sanders, and it got quite vicious.

I'm utter disgusted by these guys, who I've been stating were possibly a small section of Bernie supporters who were just suffering from whatever derangement syndrome affects right wingers when it comes to the Clintons (and now I see they've got the Obama variant too).

What is wrong with these people? Until a few weeks ago, they were normal rational liberals, now they're hate spewing, projecting trolls completely indistinguishable from the right wingers, I mean in tone, tactics, projection and the talking points.

What on earth happened? Is there literally something in the water a la Flint?

[Uponthegears]

19. Are you serious?

What will you do if Hillary gets the nomination and the GOP-bots invade ALL of our sites? I can't agree with you more that the atmosphere here is often ridiculous. BUT the constant stream of posts claiming that the negativity is coming primarily from the Sanders side is getting old.

Without trying to be (too) hyperbolic, the debate going on here is the debate over the future control of the Democratic Party and, again not to be (too) hyperbolic, that debate will begin and end in terms of the near future with whether we select Secretary of State Clinton or Senator Sanders to be our party's nominee.

I expect passion. When I DON'T see it, I get nervous.

Regarding your specific complaint regarding the JA site, I am PROUD of you for being upset at being falsely accused of being responsible for it. It tells me that you, and others who have also been falsely accused, fully understand the despicable nature of that site. I join in, no, I applaud, your outrage. I join in your call for DU members to cease using false accusations that other posters either started, or even participated in, JA as a substitute for a debate on the issues.

But I ALSO call for you and other Hillary supporters to fight back by confronting such attacks with a defense of Hillary's position on THE ISSUES, not by sulking away to some echo chamber.

[mcar]

26. Are you serious?

Have you looked at GDP lately? Any attempt by HRC or MOM supporters to discuss issues is immediately shouted down by some BS supporters as us "attacking." Yet several posts and threads implying that HRC has brain damage ( and using RW sources to support the calumny) are applauded and left to stand.

I have been here since 2002 and I have never seen the level of bullying, harassing and nastiness as I have seen by some in the last year. I do not understand why it is allowed. But the result is that great DUers like BooScout leave the site.

It used to be fun here.

[Cha]

81. Amen sistah! And, Hallelujah!

[Walk away]

27. Echo chamber???? Why I can hear the voices of Bernie supporters reverberating....

right now!

[Squinch]

58. She isn't sulking away TO an echo chamber, she is walking away FROM the echo chamber DU

has become. We get it. You think Bernie is God. Have fun with that.

There is no reason to have to "confront such attacks with a defense of Hillary's positions." If there were adults in the room, issues could be discussed, and there would be no need for confrontation and attacks. Instead, I find that I am walking away from "when did you stop beating your wife?" type arguments all day long here from Bernie supporters. Its not worth my time.

And PS, I have nothing to do with the other site either, but there is plenty of stuff in there that is dead on.

[Coolest Ranger]

20. I'll show my support

by rec your post. It's disgusting and the admins don't seem to care about what the regulars are going through. This will be over in ten weeksand when Hillary is the nominee it will be interesting to see how they react

[William769]

21. Join the club!

First it was me now you. Just goes to show they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

[Thinkingabout]

22. Sorry to lose good people, sorry you have been accused of

Which does not have any facts behind them. The same hate towards Obama and Hillary also is disbursed to other avenues. It is only making my support of Hillary stronger and continued support of President Obama. Will be following you on other sites.

[Chalco]

29. The vitriol is shocking

I completely agree. It reminds me of the last time she ran.

Overall, what I think is going on is this: Fear.

The reason I say it is, whenever a change is in the works, there is massive resistance which indicates fear. We have been run by men and when a change is imminent and even natural, the resistance is explosive. The country was hit by a two punch during the last presidential election. A black/white man and a woman running in the Democratic primary. The country decided to stay with a man, a half white man rather than let a woman in. (I think if he had been 100% black they wouldn't have let him in.) Now that woman is running again and is even more qualified than before. Yes, the vitriol remains. Poor things. White male privilege be gone.

[OhZone]

30. I don't blame you.

It doesn't feel like DU any more. IF Bernie wins the nomination, I will support him, but that's unlikely. predictwise and Nate Silver still say she's most likely to win AND she's already way ahead in super delegates.

As for a shot of positivism, and news, and humor, listen to Stephanie Miller every day.

http://www.stephaniemiller.com/

And also the Bob and Chez podcast is great!

http://www.bobcesca.com/

I can't wait, until after Super Tuesday, though.

[crim son]

32. You'll be back.

DU is always changing. One season you are on the winning side and the next, your opinions are worthless. If you really want to make a difference - if you believe in your cause - you will not wilt under pressure but will develop the thick skin necessary to be effective both here and IRL.

I'm not being critical. I've been where you are and left, only to return because I had something that needed to be said. Anyhow, whatever you do, I wish you peace.

[Tommy2Tone]

35. I have not been here as long as some of you.

What bothers me the most is the slowing of posts about Hillary in our group. If this continues I have no reason to be here. The general discussion section has nothing of interest. All atta boy Bernie posts or attack posts on Hillary, Bill, Chelsea and President Obama.

Also I agree with some here that there seems no place to go. I tried one of the Hillary sites but it had no traffic. Daily Kos has become Daily Bern and Huff Po is attacking the Clinton's on a daily basis. Neither of these sites had a word about Bernie changing his mind on guns when I posted here last night about. The only place I read it was Yahoo.

Until the election I will continue to post pro Hillary pieces and challenge Bernie even if I get trashed. I also scan the pro Bernie posts to give some support when one of us voices a dissenting voice.

To the poster of this. Good luck and come back to see us.

[synergie]

41. I just saw the Obama nastiness this morning, I'm truly sickeend, I expect this level

of vitriol to be coming from the right wing trolls, not Democrats. There really is no place else to go. I fled from Huffpo to Raw Story and Crooks and Liars and Media Matters but they're all full of quite literally the same group of rather nasty, abusive, hate spewing bernie supporters who attack in a swarm. People I knew to be rational and intelligent people until a few weeks ago, when they apparently lost their ever loving minds.

[Hortensis]

48. Again, question how many are Democrats. Many on the far left

actively oppose the Democratic Party and its policies, as we see, and some come to support Bernie are actually conservatives.

[synergie]

51. Honestly, I had no idea that there were Left wingers like this. And it's pretty obvious that some

of those fomenting the Bernie folks are literally CONS. That whole nonsense with David Brock last night kind of made that clear. Who doesn't stop to find out if Politico, of all places, actually had its facts straight for once? The sheer volume of hate that descended and the conspiracy theories and the victim playing and the delusions ...

Again I expect this from the CONS, but these Bernie folks truly do seem to have been infected by something, and they're taking over it seems not just DU but so many other sites. I recognize the nasty ones on disqus, they tend to flock together and hunt in packs, while echoing each other.

Since I didn't have a vote in my state's primary, I was prepared to coast along, enjoy some nice adult, and intelligent debate vote for whomever won the nomination, while spending my time with popcorn laughing along at the GOP comedy hours, but I'm truly disgusted by the whole thing now and the lunacy on the Bernie side.

Come up with a plan and if you pledge not go negative DON'T DO IT, these "subtle" jabs and these blatant dirty tricks (with the law suit and the data breaches etc.) are disgusting.

And perhaps I'm subscribing to the conspiracy theories here, but with that while David Brock/Podesta/Politico thing, it seems that only one group ended up with a boatload of money that they immediately started collecting, so I can't help but wonder if the "anonymous democrat who had no knowledge of the strategy" was perhaps a Bernie guy?

[Hortensis]

55. People on the more extremist fringes of right AND left

have more in common with each other than they do with moderates. Extremist parties often woo each others' supporters away. That's why some bernistas behave so much like some tea-partiers and Cruz supporters. Ideologies can shift, but inflexible, tunnel-vision, intolerant, aggressive personality traits change little if they change at all.

[Tommy2Tone]

54. You post is spot on.

I think the left wing of the party has lost their minds

Instead of celebrating Obama's accomplishment, and there are many, he is attacked as not going far enough. Same with Bill Clinton. Now here comes Bernie, a 74 year old career politician who is now the messiah of the party and he's not even a Democrat.

I see more level playing field coverage of the Dem primary on Fox than MSNBC or here.

[Hortensis]

57. Who looks for "level" coverage of a messiah?

That's for heretics and doubters.

Super Tuesday 45 days away. I wasn't here before. Can we expect it to quiet down a bit as we turn attention to the general?

[synergie]

60. I think someone raised an excellent point here, these are not the left wing of the party

they sound and act like right wingers, they're literally doing what they do. With the name calling and the sheer and pathological level of derangement. Honestly I say this as someone who was deeply disappointed in Obama, I don't think he went far enough and I don't think he handled things in the best way with the Repubs (it's nice to be the adult in the room, but when you're dealing with toddlers that gets your credit downgraded).

He is finallly doing stuff though, but even if he continued on the way he was, that is no excuse for the level of disrespect I'm seeing here and I went through the Bush administration calling him Chimpy!

I'm having a hard enough time containing my bewilderment and anger at the terribly partisan job that MSNBC and CNN are doing, I can never find Al Jazeera, but I simply can't handle fox unfiltered.

I didn't mind Bernie so much, though I find his campaign staff to be utterly slimy, but his supporters .... the majority I've dealt with, who were seemingly not stupid just a week or so ago, seem to have devolved into some sort of frothy denizen of freeperville (if you remember that old site, I ventured in there once and had to shower immediately). That is how bad it's gotten, and then I see people huddled here in to this sparsely populated little folder, while the spittle flecked rage flies in the rest of DU and I'm saddened and bit sickened. What is happening to people when they're calling a Democratic president going from one success to another those names? And spouting off anti-choice talking points and taking every bait that the CONS throw at them?

I hope this derangement passes, I find myself sincerely hoping Nate Silver and the other polls are correct and that Hillary wins IA, just to deliver a dose of reality to their ever increasing lunacy.

[Cha]

70. I haven't seen it nor do I intend to.. but the ignorant cheap pot shots on President Obama have

been going on for 7 years.

In spite of all the obstruction from the rwingers and the obnoxiousness from all ends.. The President is quite popular in the Real World.

The others are on the junk pile of History.

Poll: Obama’s approval rating hits an 18-month high, is back over 50 percent

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President Barack Obama held a Town Hall at McKinley High School in Baton Rouge today

MOre pics.. I just chose that one.. http://theobamadiary.com/2016/01/14/the-presidents-day-81/

A bare 51 percent majority of the public approves of President Obama's job performance in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, while 45 percent disapproves. Although tepidly positive, those are Obama's best numbers since May 2013 in Post-ABC surveys.

The movement in his ratings — which we would emphasize has not yet been verified in other public polls — has been slight on a month-to-month basis. But his ratings have moved in a positive direction in two consecutive Post-ABC surveys. In May and July, Obama's ratings were more negative than positive, with 45 percent to 46 percent approving and 50 percent disapproving of his performance. That tipped the other way in September, to 49 percent approval and 46 percent disapproval. And that slight shift has continued in the latest survey.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/19/poll-obamas-approval-rating-hits-an-18-month-high-is-back-over-50-percent/?postshare=9891452797823598&tid=ss_tw-bottom

This is Amazing considering all the cyberwaves and airwaves pushing ODS from the rabid rw and the other end of the spectrum biting at his heels.

[synergie]

73. What's ironic is that I stayed away from this site because of all the Obamania and the Hillary hate

the last time around. I honestly had not seen anti-Obama stuff from the non-RWNJ. I think I forgot how truly manic and aggressive people truly were across the spectrum. Lots of this "if you dare show anything but slavish adoration of my non-Clinton candidate you are pure evil" yet again.

I was called many flavors of racist (for merely questioning policies and how he was handling things in the early years), now I'm being called right wing and Republican by people who are literally using the Right Wing playbook to attack Clinton from the supposed "left".

I'm beginning to think that the ODS and CDS and the new subtypes and HDS and the CDS (they're even attacking her fetus for goodness sake!) is an actual contagious disease, that the Berniebots have caught. After the past couple of days the only reasonable ones I've seen have been here! (How scary is that?) The disqus mob are in fully frothy mode. Though their strains seem to be not so overtly the ODS, which I'm guessing is more about keeping themselves separate from the RW trolls whose talking points and tactics they've coopted.

[Cha]

75. I was for Obama in 2008 and against Hillary but would never accuse anyone of being racist

who wasn't for him.. except the rwingers who were.

That was then and this is now.. President Obama chose Hillary for his SOS and said it was one of the best decisions he ever made..

They came to work together for the Good of our Counry.. I started liking Hillary at the Dem Convention and have been rooting for her and the President ever since.

[synergie]

82. Yeah, it's a certain segment who seem to enjoy a team or tribal aspect to

politics, and really can't handle anyone talking about issues. Our elected officials must be held accountable but calling them names and attacking them personally really isn't the way to do that. (But I still reserve the right to poke fun at Gilligan and the Munsters :-D)

[Bleacher Creature]

42. I still have some faith in this place, but understand your decision.

And really hope it's only temporary.

So much of the Sanders support is based on anger and resentment, and I really don't see it as sustainable. It's essentially a movement driven by people who refuse to see the accomplishments of the Obama Administration as being successes. They focus on the fact that the President didn't get everything he wanted, and that he refused to walk away with nothing. To us, these imperfections are just reason to keep fighting. To them, it's a betrayal and the only solution is to tear it all down and start again.

I know that people have taken a lot of crap for saying this, but a lot of what's driving that campaign is similar to what's driving the Trump, Cruz, and Carson support - minus the racism.

All that being said, there's never been a real path to victory for Bernie. Just because there's been some tightening in two of the more non-representative states in the country, doesn't mean that anything has changed. Things continue to look bleak for Sanders everywhere else, and I continue to see him finished by early March. When that happens, I really hope that a lot of the people who left DU come back. And I also hope that the ones who decide to stay realize that there's too much at stake this November to continue with the internal pettiness and anger.

[William769]

49. DU has lost many Hillary members for good.

I'm still here so I can get my sawn song post in when Hillary is nominated then turn the light's out in this Group when I leave.

[Bleacher Creature]

89. Ok, you're right.

DU may be beyond redemption. GD-P is an absolute sewer right now. This place literally kept me sane during the Bush years, but my patience is almost up.

I think my breaking point was the 400+ count thread trying to imply that some vile, racist third party site is somehow an offshoot of DU's HRC supporters. I'm even more sorry that you personally have to face that crap. Hang in there!

[Starry Messenger]

46. I'm coming here less and less.

I have a lot of craft projects to finish that could use the extra time. I don't mind mixing it up with arguments, but what is going on here is so dumb, it's like the YouTube comment section.

[NastyRiffraff]

52. I completely understand, Boo

The level of vitriol here has become beyond annoying to poisonous. I can't say I'm taking an extended vacation; I'll stop in once in a while to see what's going on, but I'm not going to engage in the so-called "discussions," which are merely cheerleading and shouting down anyone who doesn't genuflect to the altar of Bernie.

[Godhumor]

53. It will be much more pleasant here after March 1

As we all know.

See you then for our turn to celebrate the nomination being essentially wrapped up.

[Cha]

83. Your keyboard to you

know where, Godhumor!

[lunamagica]

56. I'm sorry to see you go, Boo, but I understand

I think about leaving this site for good often, but it isn't easy.

I've been here for fifteen years, and felt at home. Not anymore.

But I'll hang on until Super Tuesday. Maybe things will change then.

I hope to see you back soon, supporting the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton

[Squinch]

59. Kicking, Boo. I hope at some point sanity is restored here and I will see you back here.

[zappaman]

61. When crap by shitheel Ed Klein is allowed to stand...

It becomes apparent that this site is not for democrats.

[synergie]

62. At least it was called out for the shameless crap that it was. I took a bit of hope from that meager

demonstraton.

[Logical]

66. Really? Over dramatic much? nt

[zappaman]

68. No, not really.

RW hit pieces should stay where they belong, which isn't here.
Oh, it's lying about Hillary?
Never mind, that's okay then.

[Cha]

69. You have no business in Hillary's Group questioning her supporters.. so yeah.. you're Blocked.

[still_one]

77. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[Gothmog]

64. I understand

Come back after the Super Tuesday primaries. Things will have calmed down

[Kaleva]

67. DU is as negative a place as one wants it to be

I've decided a while back that I will be voting for Hillary in the primary and I hope she is the nominee. But I'll be voting for the nominee, regardless of who it is, in the general.

Given that, I rarely go into GD , the Hillary group or the Sanders group. No point in it. DU is a big place with many groups and forums in which there are numerous posts and discussions about on topics that I find interesting, funny and/or informative.

[Cha]

71. Well you got the requisite SOP alert on your Post, Boo. Someone has alerted on you.

It wasn't a Hillary supporter.

I can assure them that you have every right to state, here in Hillary's Group, why you want to take an extended vacation.

I wish you the Best, Boo.. You're a valuable asset and supporter for Hillary no matter where you are.

[Stand and Fight]

74. Agreed.

I've not chosen a side yet, but the vitriol spewed by Bernie Sanders' supporters is quite off-putting.

[Basic LA]

78. An uplifting article in Esquire.

"The Last Optimist At The Apocalypse," by Tom Junod in the current Esquire is bound to lift our spirits. The subtitle says it all: "The modern, extremist right was pretty much invented in opposition to HILLARY CLINTON (and her husband). And now it's up to her (alone) to stop it.

Enjoy.

[Lil Missy]

79. Don't join that cesspool to respond to false accusations.

Speaking for myself, I ignore stupid and mean spirited crap. They don't deserve a response.

Don't cast your pearls before swine.

[murielm99]

84. I am staying because

this site might be salvageable after the primaries. If not, I will see you elsewhere on the Internet.

There are many right-wingers who have fantasized about wrecking this site. They may get their way, with the loss of good people like you.

I am sorry to see you go.

[Loki]

85. I'm staying

but I won't be renewing my Star Membership. It appears Skinner, Elad, and EarlG don't really give a rat's ass about this place anymore, and thus I put my money where I feel it will do the most good. Supporting Democrats in races in my own state and elsewhere that will help put this country back on it's feet again and bring back our State Houses and Senates and those in the Capitol. We need sanity restored to this country. I just hope it's not too late.

[MineralMan]

86. I'm sorry to hear that.

I'll be sticking around so there'll be someone here through Super Tuesday. I'm hopeful that the vitriol will disappear once it's clear that Hillary Clinton will be the nominee, which should happen on March 2.

If it still stays ugly, I'll be leaving, too. In the meantime, I'm posting less.

[Dawson Leery]

87. It is strange how this site has become "BernieUnderground".

Bernie has never been a Democrat and openly expressed his disdain for the party.
He had no love affair for JFK (as he was not at all sympathetic towards the "student revolution" that brought Castro to power).
There are very few people who were sympathetic to it.

[asuhornets]

88. I am not new to DU, but

I am new to posting. When Hillary announced her candidacy, I thought I would post more on DU. But not anymore the Bernie Supporters are running wild and gets upset with any slight criticism of Bernie. It's ridiculous. I am going to try and hang in there, but it is not fun anymore. Thanx

[Nonhlanhla]

90. I'm a long-term lurker

and a recent more frequent poster. (I hope it's OK for me to post here - I am a Hillary supporter, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to "join" here somehow in order to post.) I started out this primary season fairly neutral between Hillary and Bernie. I made up my mind in favor of Hillary after datagate and the Bernie people's Rovian move to shift the blame for it on Hillary. Bernie has not engaged in a lot of negative campaigning himself (he has done a bit, but so has our candidate, and I'm OK with that since it's the way the game is played), but Bernie's supporters (not all, but quite a few) are over-the-top negative and unpleasant to the nth degree. It's incomprehensible to me how people who boast that their candidate runs a positive campaign, can themselves engage in constant, endless, over-the-top negative attacks on Hillary. The echoing of right-wing memes is the worst.

I'll stay on DU, but I find myself writing less on GD-P, since even the most reasonable argument is attacked by Bernie supporters. (Not argued with, but attacked.)