Sanders hits low point--compares Hillary to Dick Cheney

[riversedge]

Laura Meckler ‏@laurameckler 18h18 hours ago

Sanders in Iowa: "No one can deny that Sec. Clinton has a lot of foreign policy experience.. Dick Cheney had a hell of a lot of experience."


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[guillaumeb]

1. That is a low comment. And I like Senator Sanders' positions.

I preferred when the two candidates discussed actual positions and refrained from this type of Karl Rove tactic.

[Starry Messenger]

2. It's obvious he's not up to campaigning.

[Dawson Leery]

3. Sanders should look into his past to see

some of the colorful characters he supported.

[riversedge]

12. Of all people--Chuck Todd just said Bernie has not been vetted by the media nor by

Clinton herself. so, will the media start doing the vetting??

[Thinkingabout]

28. The GOP will try to push Sanders to get the nomination, wont happen but he would be

The GOP best road to victory. They will hold the Swift Boating until the nominee is determined. If some here thinks there have been attacks on Sanders, in fact they have not begun.

[emsimon33]

34. Bernie would be their worst nightmare

Hillary, on the other hand, can not win a national election for president. She will rile up the Republicans to come out and vote and at the rate she is going lying about Bernie and the cheating by the DNC, a large number of Democrats will simply stay home because they will realize that it is not their party any more. I may get in trouble for reporting this, but that is what I am hearing and did hear in 2008. Sorry.

[Thinkingabout]

36. Actually I am hearing Sanders will not win against any of the GOP candidates.

He has never been vetted by the GOP or by the DNC, Hillary has been vetted by the GOP for many years.

[emsimon33]

37. Every poll shows Bernie beating every Repug candidate by a wider margin than Hillary

As for vetting: He has been consistent in his positions throughout his political life. He has been open about his son born out of wedlock, etc. They can lie but when the lies are revealed as such, as with Clinton's lies and misquotes of Bernie, it just reinforces that the opponents are not to be trusted.

This is a revolution. You are either for it or against it but it is not going away.

As for Hillary running on Obama's record: Not all of us are happy with that record: TPP, Monsanto, Goldman Sacks, etc. Obama promised that single payer would be on the table and then made sure that it never was. ACA is a Republican plan. Simply put, Hillary can not win the general election. There is too much baggage and people do not trust her.

[Thinkingabout]

38. Was it a misquote about HRC and PP a part of the establishment?

[emsimon33]

39. Posted on another DU discussion

Lage Nom Ai
13. Actual Quote

"I think on the crucial foreign policy issue of our time, it turns out that Secretary Clinton, with all of her experience, was wrong and I was right," Sanders said, according to the Washington Post. "Experience is important. Dick Cheney had a lot of experience. A whole lot of people have experience but do not necessarily have the right judgment. I think I have the right judgment to conduct sensible foreign policy."

I don't think he was making a comparison as much as making an example of peoples judgment.

[Thinkingabout]

40. Was it a misquote or a lie, is HRC and PP part of the establishment, these are two groups which

endorsed Hillary and then he says they are a part of the establishment.

On the foreign policy, Sanders has yet to show he is ready on this issue.

[FrenchieCat]

41. Same polls taken at this time in 2008... prior to any Iowa vote....

had McCain beating Obama by up to 12 points!

So using those polls is actually not gonna help!

[Cha]

43. Yeah yeah yeah.. the US media/gop want BS to run against.. they know they can't beat Hillary.

well too bad

Hillary's going to be the next POTUS

[Cha]

42. You can be sorry because you're so horribly wrong it's pathetic. That's terrible bunk what

you're trying to push.

You only look desperate and make sanders look desperate too.

[lunamagica]

4. And he was supposed to be different...wouldn't go negative...

The internal polling in this campaign must be terrible for him to go so negative. It isn't just this tweet, there's also his comments on PP and HRC. Something most be terribly wrong on Bernieland that's bringing out so much negativity.

[dlwickham]

5. F**k him

I'm starting to wonder if he does get the nomination, favorite deity forbid, if he wants the backing of Hillary supporters.

[riversedge]

6. Not with those in the gutter comments being spouted from his mouth.

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[lewebley3]

9. I have saying all along Sanders and his people are running a negative campaign

[BlueCaliDem]

48. So have I. Just because he and his supporters SAY he isn't, doesn't make it true.

And, as his remark comparing Hillary Clinton to Darth Cheney shows, he's lying on all levels. He's just scared that Hillary Clinton - known for hitting her opponents 18x harder back - will turn her wrath on him and actually expose his legislative record for all the world to see since it's clear in-the-tank-for-the-GOP U.S. media, collectively, aren't doing their job vetting the man.

[Treant]

8. I'm glad I'm in a safe Dem state

I'll vote for him, I guess, but it's going to be grudging at best.

[BlueCaliDem]

49. Since I really don't see Bernie winning the nomination by any metric, I don't have to worry about

having to cast my vote for him. And that's a huge weight off my chest!

[kjones]

11. Bernie, all talk, hot air, and insults.

[BlueCaliDem]

50. All hat(e), no cattle. Thanks but no thanks. eom

[Cha]

46. he doesn't have to worry his insulting mouth about that.

[Gothmog]

7. That comment was in poor taste

[GusBob]

10. Translation:

"Putin can have his way with me"

[Lage Nom Ai]

13. Actual Quote

"I think on the crucial foreign policy issue of our time, it turns out that Secretary Clinton, with all of her experience, was wrong and I was right," Sanders said, according to the Washington Post. "Experience is important. Dick Cheney had a lot of experience. A whole lot of people have experience but do not necessarily have the right judgment. I think I have the right judgment to conduct sensible foreign policy."

I don't think he was making a comparison as much as making an example of peoples judgment.

[Treant]

14. Yeah, that's an equivalency.

Hillary Clinton = experience = Dick Cheney

Bernie's great at taking semi-deniable sideswipes at people would be the takeaway here.

What we can also extract from it is:

Bernie Sanders = inexperience = Dunning-Kruger Effect

[Lage Nom Ai]

15. Did you get a desk reference for Christmas?

Good for you. So you think attacking the possible Democratic candidate is smart? And that somehow comparing him to McArthur Wheeler shows your political skills? I think you may have problems with recognizing someone else genuine skill as a leader with good judgment. No need to respond.

[Treant]

16. Oh, I'll respond.

He's a terrible leader with provably abysmal management skills who hires dishonest tech workers who steal other people's data. His keynote healthcare legislature failed--without a single co-sponsor--which should tell you how wonderful his leadership really is.

He's not a Democrat. He's a carpetbagger in the party who's spent decades making coin off screaming about Democrats and how wrong they are. But now he wants our blessing to be the candidate for President? No thank you, slink back to Vermont.

As far as attack? Please. Check General Discussion regarding Mrs. Clinton, I'd suggest your efforts are better spent there.

Welcome to the Hillary Clinton group, I'm sure you're really going to brighten our day and bring clouds of butterflies in with your positive energy.

[Lage Nom Ai]

17. Funny

He is more democrat than your candidate. As for carpet bagger you may want to check her background. Lastly no data was stolen, but hey his techs are much better than the contractors working for the DNC and Hillary's own personal tech. That would be that judgment thing again.

[Treant]

18. Mods

Please take care of this person who can't figure out this is the Hillary group. Thanks!

[Cha]

20. Done.

[Treant]

23. Thanks, Cha!

I wasn't sure how to alert on here without invoking a jury.

[Cha]

24. You don't really except for said jury.. it's up to the HOSTS of the Hillary Group to keep an

eye out.

But, you can PM me if this kind of intrusion into our Group should happen again.

[Cha]

21. yes, data was taken by the BS team.. josh uretsky and 2 others were fired.. BS apologized to

Hillary.

No, berni is not more of a dem.. all berni does is slam the dems.

Hillary is much more liberal than sanders.. thank Goodness!

[Cha]

22. "So you think attacking the possible Democratic candidate is smart?" You need to ask the BS

supporters that question.

[riversedge]

29. Sanders supporters need to look in the mirror--" So you think attacking the possible Democratic

"So you think attacking the possible Democratic candidate is smart"

[emsimon33]

32. Good point

[Politicub]

35. He made a logical fallacy - and told a lie for simpletons

Judgement, indeed.

[McCamy Taylor]

19. This does not sound like Sanders. Maybe he is getting tired.

[emsimon33]

33. Was a misquote, of course

Lage Nom Ai (15 posts)
13. Actual Quote

"I think on the crucial foreign policy issue of our time, it turns out that Secretary Clinton, with all of her experience, was wrong and I was right," Sanders said, according to the Washington Post. "Experience is important. Dick Cheney had a lot of experience. A whole lot of people have experience but do not necessarily have the right judgment. I think I have the right judgment to conduct sensible foreign policy."

I don't think he was making a comparison as much as making an example of peoples judgment.

[Lucinda]

54. He knew exactly what he was saying, and it wasn't a random comparison. n/t

[emsimon33]

26. Actually only stated a fact.

and both ARE hawks.

[riversedge]

30. go peddle your vile smears someplace else--like the gutter.

[Cha]

44. berni is so desperate to bring in dick cheney.. it's really sad.

And, he's desperate when he says HRC and PP are #establishment.

Too bad PP and HRC and all the other "Establishment" Unions endorsed Hillary.. they did it because they're smart and they know she is the best candidate by far to be POTUS.

[mcar]

27. But it's not an attack or smear

Because, that's why.

Seriously,

[Hekate]

31. KnR

[Cha]

45. How about your FP, bernie.. how would you like if it someone brought up a person equal to

dick cheney to compare your lack of FP?

How would you like those apples, ber-nie?

He wouldn't.. but that doesn't stop him from dragging out the biggest insult he can muster.. he's just hurting himself, again.

[riversedge]

47. It was a beyond the pale comparison

[deathrind]

51. He is right

They both have a lot of foreign policy experience. They both made serious errors in foreign policy decisions...even with all that experience. So the point is right on target.

[Cha]

53. No bernie is dead wrong. And, he's stepped in it Big Time. It says everything about him and

absolutely nothing about the Presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton.

Just says berni is desperate.

[livetohike]

52. Typical Republican/Rove smear. Take someone's strong point and

try to make it a liability. When are his supporters going to realize Sanders is a career politician like any other? It's been his life. What did he do prior to becoming mayor of Burlington? I know he ran for office since the early 70's. He is establishment.