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handmade34

(22,756 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:18 PM Jan 2016

I think it is important

for us to read and understand Hillary Clinton's vote concerning the Iraq War... I was a strong opponent of the war but I remember listening to this speech by Hillary Clinton with much respect... she voted yes but with considerable caveats and for reason...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/12/435624/-

"...My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or for uni-lateralism, or for the arrogance of American power or purpose -- all of which carry grave dangers for our nation, for the rule of international law and for the peace and security of people throughout the world.

Over eleven years have passed since the UN called on Saddam Hussein to rid himself of weapons of mass destruction as a condition of returning to the world community. Time and time again he has frustrated and denied these conditions. This matter cannot be left hanging forever with consequences we would all live to regret. War can yet be avoided, but our responsibility to global security and to the integrity of United Nations resolutions protecting it cannot. I urge the President to spare no effort to secure a clear, unambiguous demand by the United Nations for unlimited inspections..."



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Treant

(1,968 posts)
1. It was not a position I liked
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jan 2016

..but we also shouldn't forget that the President and Vice President were lying to the nation and to the Senate and House.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
2. of course, many of us were dismayed
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:18 PM
Jan 2016

I do think her position has been greatly maligned by many... and yes, actions by many were the result of disingenuous information and outright lies...

I do think it is a good speech and one we supporters should read

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
3. Yeah, Bush and Cheney lied to everyone, and presented false evidense.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:50 PM
Jan 2016

It's all on their heads. Oh well.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. Hillary Clinton wasn't responsible for what the Bush administration did.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:14 AM
Jan 2016

She represented New York City and the vast majority of victims and survivors, and a constituency reeling.

Hillary's vote and support - either way - would have made no difference in what followed.

Neither did Sander's. Or Biden's or Kerry's.

Did Kerry's vote for the Iraq Resolution give us four more years of Bush?

Did Biden's vote for the Iraq Resolution keep him from running now?

Or is Hillary just held to a 'higher standard'?

And 'Anyone But' just found a justification to hang their hat on...


yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. In light of revisionist history and 20/20 hindsight, fact:
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jan 2016
Iraq Resolution of 2002, enacted October 16, 2002.

Public Support for Invading Iraq
June 2002 – March 2003



http://www.gallup.com/poll/7990/Public-Support-Iraq-Invasion-Inches-Upward.aspx
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