Study: Bernie Sanders's single-payer plan is almost twice as expensive as he says. HRC ROOM

[hrmjustin]

Dylan Matthews

Bernie Sanders's health care plan is underfunded by almost $1.1 trillion a year, a new analysis by Emory University health care expert Kenneth Thorpe finds.

Thorpe isn't some right-wing critic skeptical of all single-payer proposals. Indeed, in 2006 he laid out a single-payer proposal for Vermont after being hired by the legislature, and was retained by progressive Vermont lawmakers again in 2014 as the state seriously considered single-payer, authoring a memo laying out alternative ways to expand coverage. A 2005 report he wrote estimated that a single-payer system would save $1.1 trillion in health spending from 2006 to 2015.

http://www.vox.com/2016/1/28/10858644/bernie-sanders-kenneth-thorpe-single-payer

[Iliyah]

1. Yes it is and that does not include free (operative word) colleges too.

[Agnosticsherbet]

2. Vermont tried, and found that it was far more expensive that they thought.

I am not surprised that the same is discovered true.

The real question is whether he is making a promise knowing he is not giving the straight facts or if he believes his own under inflated numbers.

[redstateblues]

4. Bernie will promise anything to win

I've looked at the numbers and they just don't add up. His "savings" are very similar to the RW claiming that tax cuts create growth. Both are unrealistic fantasies.

[NurseJackie]

3. It looks so tasty!

[Basic LA]

5. Great image!

Thanks for that one.

[BlueCaliDem]

6. Very good image!

[misterhighwasted]

9. haaha

Its a pie !!!

[Treant]

10. I'm a total sad sack...

I just spent a solid twenty seconds thinking, theoretically, how a pie might form in outer space and orbit the planet as a moon.

I'm thinking it starts with a horrible, horrible dough accident in the Triangulum galaxy several billion years ago.

[kjones]

11. For the true believers...

?1

[Cha]

13. Brilliant, Jackie!

I'm borrowing your pie, ok? lol

Mahalo~

[Gothmog]

7. I am not surprised

[Thinkingabout]

8. Honesty would be good, I have read posts where some are disappointed in President Obama

because he talked about things which has not happened, how much disappointment will those same people going to experience when Bernie's Medicare for All is again unable to make it through Congress when Bernie may be president. Hillary tried for single payer in the 90's, it failed to get through Congress, President Obama was able to push ACA through Congress, barely, but the single payer would not have made it through.

[jmowreader]

12. Hillarycare was more similar to Obamacare or Romneycare than to Berniecare

Hillarycare required everyone to be enrolled in a healthcare plan (provided by the government below a certain income level, and by employers above it), and did some cost containment work. Everyone on both the left and right shredded it - the left wanted single payer, the right wanted the status quo.

The Berniecare system at least seems to feature no deductibles, no copays, no rationing and no, or minimal, cost containment while maintaining the healthcare system as a private sector function. Nothing like it has ever been tried anywhere in the world. The only way this works even at double Sanders' funding predictions is if he nationalizes the medical industry.

[Thinkingabout]

14. He has not presented a reasonable expectation of cost.

Free sells to some, does not sell to reasonable people. Medicare is good, not free. I just wish Sanders could be honest.