Uh Oh! Hillary tied with Rand Paul in KENTUCKY!! of all places

[OKNancy]

http://www.kentucky.com/2015/05/13/3849945/bluegrass-poll-kentucky-republicans.html

U.S. Sen. Rand Paul has hinged his fledgling presidential campaign on polls showing him ahead of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in some swing states, but the latest Bluegrass Poll suggests Paul might have a hard time beating Clinton in his own backyard.

The Bluegrass Poll, conducted by SurveyUSA from May 5 to 10 and sponsored by the Herald-Leader and WKYT-TV in Lexington and the Courier-Journal and WHAS-TV in Louisville, found that Clinton and Paul are tied in Kentucky with 45 percent each. Eleven percent of the 2,104 registered voters surveyed were un decided.

The question has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.2 percentage points.

rest of article at the link

[leftofcool]

1. Holy S$%^

No Dem has been tied with a Republican in Kentucky for like, ever. But, Hillary did take KY in 2008 and she is well liked here. We do at the moment have a Dem Gov.

[OKNancy]

2. I don't think Paul has a chance to win the Republican nom

but this just shows her strength in places that one would never think.
I think she may win all of Obama's 2008 blue states, plus pick up two or three more.

[Sancho]

3. I realize this is unpopular with the "Hillary Haters"...

and we never know what will happen a year from now (remember Edwards?), but here in Florida and in most of the South, Hillary is much more popular with independents, women, and Hispanics than every other current candidate.

Bernie doesn't resonate with most of my friends and neighbors, and on the college campus, women are VERY interested in a candidate who would reverse years of attacks on women's rights.

In Florida, about 25% were born in another country. Everyone (including the Christian right) here has positive reactions to the Clinton Foundation, businesses respect the Clinton's international experience, and internationals believe that Obama was way too slow and ineffective to tackle immigration.

I'm not surprised about Kentucky, and I suspect the same would be true in the Carolina's and Georgia. Women and under 50s will go for Hillary over any crazy repub. Farmers and businesses who hire immigrants also are fed up with the GOP. Minority voters will not vote for the Rand Paul extremists, and than includes Lindsey, Jeb, etc.

Bernie may be popular in the liberal NE, but he has almost no carry-over with the independents in the South in my observation. Neither Bernie nor Warren have the $'s to run a campaign in expensive purple states like Florida.

[OKNancy]

6. you posted in the Hillary group, please delete

or would you rather be blocked.
Keep the negative comments to the General Discussion forum.

[Sancho]

7. I have been there in the front lines a long time...

I met Nixon in the 60's, introduced Jimmy Carter on my college campus when he ran in the 70's, I worked for Richard Riley (2 term Gov. of SC and Clinton's Sec. of Ed.), I met GWB when he was campaigning for his father, and the list goes on and on.

Even though it may be changing, you can't win the South (or even big purple states) like Florida with purely progressive ideals. There are too many independents, too much money spewing propaganda, too many church pulpits preaching a "conservative" message.

Unless a candidate is personally attractive (like Reagan and Kennedy and Edwards) so that they transcend the issues, most folks in the middle are either uninformed or feel strongly about a particular issue. In our current times: women's rights, immigration, and increasingly the environment are the "middle" group issues that will likely drive the independent vote.

I realize that the progressives are obsessed with the bankers, and some special issues (like gun control and health care). I also am interested that reforms are needed. Unfortunately, voter turn out has been dismal, and the independents aren't really unified on particular issues right now. As such, getting crossovers with women and on immigration is one way that Hillary can win. I will vote for the Democratic candidate, but I've seen plenty of "blue dogs" do well in the South when they had something to say that was important to voters. You can go back to Bryan Dorn, Claude Pepper, etc. and see it.

Right now, I don't think either Sanders or Warren would have a snowbird's chance in Florida or SC or GA. Hillary could win FL and might even surprise people in other Southern states.

[hrmjustin]

8. Self delete please. you are in the Hillary room.

[underpants]

5. Can Rand be on the ballot for POTUS if he runs for his Senate seat?

Has that been resolved or even addressed by the Ky legislature?

[hrmjustin]

9. No he can't.

The gop is trying to switch to a caucus to overcome this but the primary will still go on because the Democrats in the legislature will not change the law.


It will go fo the courts.

[Thinkingabout]

10. More good news. I realize it will be diffcult for Democrats to win in southern states but doesn't

Mean we should not work in those states. Paul will be a perpetual candidate for president but do not think he will be the Republican nominee for 2016. This poll tells me against another candidate may result in a win for Hillary.