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MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:56 AM Mar 2016

Let's talk Vice President (Hillary Group)

What do you look for in a candidate?

I think #1 is they must be qualified to actually be President. That's a given.

But beyond that, do you look more at balancing the weaknesses of the Presidential candidate? I think Biden was good in Obama's first run for that, to have a seasoned politician. I think it allayed some of Obama's "not ready" concerns.

I think geographical balance matters. Hillary being from New York, someone from the south or midwest would be appealing. Have we ever had a major candidate from the Pacific Northwest? I think it is an oft forgotten part of the country. And there are a lot of great, liberal options there.

I'm not getting into specific candidates, but feel free to.

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Let's talk Vice President (Hillary Group) (Original Post) MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 OP
I have a crush on the identical twins . . . Iliyah Mar 2016 #1
Me, too. :-) BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #29
I want someone old and unrealistic. Someone who has had a less than ordinary political career. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #2
Isn't it a given it will be Julian Castro exboyfil Mar 2016 #3
I'm from Florida MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #5
If she tabs Julian Castro, Aristus Mar 2016 #4
:) Haveadream Mar 2016 #21
Welcome to DU, haveadream! Aristus Mar 2016 #33
BOOM! Der it iz! BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #30
And to you, BlueCaliDem! Aristus Mar 2016 #34
Could Castro bring Texas? Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #6
Texas is probably a bridge too far MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #11
Great point about Arizona Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #14
It's red because too many Latinos don't register to vote. That will change with Julian Castro on the BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #32
I'd like Elizabeth Warren! yallerdawg Mar 2016 #7
Ha Ha MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #8
When I glance at GD-P and see all the 'recs'... yallerdawg Mar 2016 #10
It's seemed as thought it's going to be Castro... HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #13
lol you're bad.. stop it. Cha Mar 2016 #15
I still like the idea of Julian Castro... book_worm Mar 2016 #9
Tim Kaine or Castro gemlake Mar 2016 #12
God, not Kaine -- he really is a DINO obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #24
She will carry Virginia metroins Mar 2016 #26
Diversity is good. Julian Castro could help with that. Cha Mar 2016 #16
Warren, Castro, Booker marctravis Mar 2016 #17
julian castro would be the natural especially with who we will be facing beachbum bob Mar 2016 #18
I really like Castro... Chichiri Mar 2016 #19
Yes, although MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #22
I'm from San Antonio, so of course, I want Castro. hamsterjill Mar 2016 #20
Castro obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #23
Castro..... Historic NY Mar 2016 #25
holder enid602 Mar 2016 #27
How about Sen. Sherrod Brown? Yavin4 Mar 2016 #28
Sherrod Brown would be great, but charlyvi Mar 2016 #36
Castro would be great. I also like Cory Booker and Anthony Foxx. UrbScotty Mar 2016 #31
Please NOT Castro Proud Public Servant Mar 2016 #35
Really interesting MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #37
I like The little I know about Edwards Proud Public Servant Mar 2016 #39
Biden was the perfect pick for Obama Politicub Mar 2016 #38
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. I want someone old and unrealistic. Someone who has had a less than ordinary political career.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:59 AM
Mar 2016

Mitch McConnell.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
3. Isn't it a given it will be Julian Castro
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

He has been groomed for it as far as I can tell.

If not him then someone who would help in Florida. I see him getting a second home in the Sunshine state if he is the V.P. pick. If she wins Florida then the only path for the GOP would be through Pennsylvania - a very tough nut to crack.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
5. I'm from Florida
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:12 PM
Mar 2016

the Democratic Party there is such a mess. It is a slightly lean right state, but we should do much better there they we do.

I can't think of a single, qualified vice presidential candidate from Florida, largely because we keep losing there, and running horrendous candidates. There hasn't been a Democratic Governor in Florida since 1998, and the best we could offer up for the last election was a Republican turned Democrat. It's really unfortunate.

But to your suggestion of Castro, I think him running as Hillary's VP might turn Florida into a landslide if it is against Trump.

Cuban-Americans are the only minority demographic that I know of that votes Republican, and heavily so. If you have an open anti-Latino racist Republican against a Democratic ticket with a Latino on it, at the very least, that might lower the margin among Cuban-Americans that Republicans need to win Florida state-wide elections.

Also, it would be bait for Trump. He won't be able to contain himself and will eventually say something racist, ask for Castro's birth certificate...something.

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
4. If she tabs Julian Castro,
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

She will win in a landslide that would make Mt. St. Helen look like a sandcastle crumbling at high tide...

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
11. Texas is probably a bridge too far
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

It's way too red. But I would be interested in Arizona. Percentage-wise, Obama lost by 9%, but that is actually a little over 200,00 votes.

But of note, he only won the Latino vote 74-25. While that is a blowout, if it is:

1) Castro as VP.
2) Trump as the Republican Nominee.

then we have an opportunity. Latinos represented 18% of the vote in 2012 in Arizona. If we can boost that a little (and demographics do favor a boost, since this is a group that is growing), and greatly increase the percentage of votes to the Dem, which should be doable with a Trump vs. Castro dynamic, I think we can flip it.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
32. It's red because too many Latinos don't register to vote. That will change with Julian Castro on the
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

ticket with the possibility that he'll have a good chance to become our 46th president of the United States (after Hillary's two terms, of course), and the Democratic Party will shatter yet another ceiling.

Romney only got 23% of the Latino vote the last time. Republicans need to get at least 42% of the Latino vote in 2016 to win. With Trump at the head of the ticket, Julian Castro as VP running mate, and President Obama and VP Biden out campaigning for them - no matter who Trump chooses as VP - I see, for Democrats, a landslide in the making.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
8. Ha Ha
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

They would completely lose it. This is why I can't be in politics. I would do things like that out of spite.

Bernie supporters aren't the real enemy, but it would be nice to make them squirm.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. When I glance at GD-P and see all the 'recs'...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

makes me wonder who the enemy is, and where they are?

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
13. It's seemed as thought it's going to be Castro...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

...but boy howdy, wouldn't it be a great show of exploding heads if she tapped Warren!

And I just loooooove the notion of an all woman ticket!





book_worm

(15,951 posts)
9. I still like the idea of Julian Castro...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

1) He's young and she needs to generate more excitement with young people
2) He's latino, and even though we will win the latino vote overwhelmingly (especially against Trump) we want to generate huge turnout which can possible tip states like Texas (I don't discount it) and Arizona and provide added security to New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada.
3)He's a very good strong speaker and campaigner.

obamanut2012

(26,046 posts)
24. God, not Kaine -- he really is a DINO
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:44 PM
Mar 2016

I don't want anyone anti choice or anti LGBT even near that type of position.

marctravis

(15 posts)
17. Warren, Castro, Booker
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

I like Warren. I'm not sure she'd accept if Hillary offered though. Castro is great, but I don't know what his debate skills are like. How about Corey Booker? Just imagine if Trump picks Christie as his VP. I think Booker could handle a debate against Christie since they already have a history. Either way it needs to be a fighter.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
18. julian castro would be the natural especially with who we will be facing
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

trump...rubio...or cruz


castro is the real deal...

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
19. I really like Castro...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

But I'm worried that he'll be attacked for lack of experience, like Palin. (Although I think we can trust him not to say that he can see Mexico from his house.)

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
22. Yes, although
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:04 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think the attack will be effective:

1) He is smart.

2) Clinton will not be running a campaign based on saying her opponent is not ready for the White House. That was the big McCain argument in 2008. That Obama was too young and inexperienced. He then picked Palin, which completely undermined his entire campaign.

3) He's only 3 years younger than Rubio, so they don't really have a leg to stand on.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
20. I'm from San Antonio, so of course, I want Castro.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

But I also think that Cory Booker is a possibility.

It will be interesting.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
25. Castro.....
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:03 PM
Mar 2016

many states have large rising Latino populations, he gives them a voice. He is in the POTUS Cabinet, and is focused on national concerns. He is smart, articulate and appeals to a wide range of the population.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
28. How about Sen. Sherrod Brown?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:23 PM
Mar 2016

Helps us in Ohio and the Midwest. Helps with progressives. Good on trade.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
36. Sherrod Brown would be great, but
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:03 PM
Mar 2016

you'd be taking him out of the Senate and electing a dem in his place would not be guaranteed. Too risky, since we need to try like hell to win the Senate (Supreme Court anyone?). Same thing with Warren, although Massachusetts would be less iffy.

UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
31. Castro would be great. I also like Cory Booker and Anthony Foxx.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:49 PM
Mar 2016

All of them have been mayors, which is a kind of experience that I don't think we've had in any president or vice president since Coolidge.

Plus, as current Cabinet members, Foxx and Castro would be able to help with the narrative that we must continue the progress that has been made under the current administration.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
35. Please NOT Castro
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary's going to run a campaign on being more than ready to be POTUS on day one. Castro's been mayor of a city where all the executive power is actually held by a city manager (so, basically, he's been the San Antonio's version of the Queen of England) and head of an inconsequential cabinet department. Seems like a good guy, but no way should he be a heartbeat away from the presidency just yet. Given that, picking Castro will look calculating and pandering, playing right into perceptions she already has to combat.

Personally, I've long felt that Hillary's biggest problem going into this race is that she's the consummate DC insider at a moment when people loathe DC far beyond the usual bounds. So I'd wonder about the wisdom of picking another DC player (like a senator) for the ticket. She'd be way better off with a popular Dem governor, but we're not exactly overflowing with those. Before Bernie upended the race, I would have bet a bit of money on Steve Beshear, especially after KY's incredibly successful implementation of Obamacare -- but he's a bit of a blue dog, and she's going to need someone more progressive than that. Devil Patrick is certainly a possibility, but a two-northeasterner ticket is probably a bad idea. Hickenlooper, maybe?

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
37. Really interesting
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

I had no idea he was that light on experience. I still don't think it will be a major problem if he's bright. I really don't know much about him.

Speaking of governors, what do you think of John Bel Edwards? He's Louisiana governor, and is currently fighting with their Republican legislature to balance their budget by raising taxes. That takes some serious fortitude in a red state.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
39. I like The little I know about Edwards
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:31 AM
Mar 2016

I like Washinton state's Jay Inslee too. But their both in their first terms of their current jobs; I'm not sure they're veep material just yet. If we lose (God forbid), I'd imagine they'd both be 2020 contenders for prez.

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