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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:56 PM Mar 2016

DailyKOS sets March 15th as the end of Hillary bashing:

So here’s what happens on March 15:
No attacks on Hillary Clinton using right-wing tropes of sources. She’s had 30 years of bullshit flung at her from the Right, there’s no need to have Daily Kos give them an assist.

Constructive criticism from the Left is allowed. There’s a difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Do I need to spell it out? It’s the difference between “We need to put pressure on her to do the right thing on TPP” versus “she’s a sell-out corporatist whore oligarch.” In general, if you’re resorting to cheap sloganeering like “oligarch” or “warmonger” or “neocon”, you might want to reframe your argument in a more substantive, issue-focused and constructive matter. Again, I’m not interested in furthering the Right’s hate-fueled media machine. If that’s what you want, might I suggest Free Republic?

Saying you won’t vote, or will vote for Trump, or will vote for Jill Stein (or another Third Party) is not allowed. If that’s how you feel, but have other places in which you can be constructive on the site, then keep your presidential feelings to yourself. Those of us who care about our country and it’s future are focused on victory. If you aren’t, then it’s a big internet, I suggest you find more hospitable grounds for your huffing, puffing, and stomping of feet.

If you are going to be pessimistic, you better support it. There’s a difference between “Clinton can’t beat Trump” and “Clinton can’t beat Trump in Alabama”. There is also a difference between the blanket “Clinton can’t beat Trump” and “Looking at the polling, I’m worried that Clinton is falling behind Trump because X, Y, and Z”. Obviously, that also applies to races and issues down the ballot, not just the presidential. If you are going to be a Debbie-Downer, you better have a damn good reason to justify your pessimism. Rank, unsupported pessimism is anathema to our data-driven, reality based culture.


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/4/1495813/-March-15-and-Daily-Kos-transition-to-General-Election-footing





I guess we should prepare for an onslaught of rejected kossacks in need of their daily 5 minutes of Hillary hate here at DU.

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DailyKOS sets March 15th as the end of Hillary bashing: (Original Post) sufrommich Mar 2016 OP
Can we do that here too? mcar Mar 2016 #1
It's not gonna happen no. GusBob Mar 2016 #5
True that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #49
I'd disagree with that... Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #50
It will happen when the MSM announces Hillary has clinched. Chichiri Mar 2016 #7
He won't. I asked him twice. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #33
Unfortunately, no NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #46
I haven't posted and DailyKos for years. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #2
Beware the Ides of March lol GusBob Mar 2016 #3
Et tu, GusBob? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #11
can you send me that GIF please? Setsuna1972 Mar 2016 #24
Check your inbox. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #26
Someone should PM this to the admins here. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #4
+1. Sounds like a plan.nt sufrommich Mar 2016 #6
Yeah to warn them of the migrating shit heads GusBob Mar 2016 #18
Yeah. It's going to suck even more. :( Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #21
I read the whole link Kos has good points GusBob Mar 2016 #22
Yeah, I agree. Same here. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #23
Arrgh! DesertRat Mar 2016 #44
I plan on saving my real discussion for over there. bravenak Mar 2016 #53
Woot! Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #54
I'll just tweet anything and post over at hcs if I write anything. Makes it easier to lure you over. bravenak Mar 2016 #56
Yay!! Thank you!! XO Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #57
"Huffing and puffing and stomping of feet" sounds familiar. UtahLib Mar 2016 #8
Such COMMON SENSE rules he's got planned. Wow! Seems simple enough. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #9
I think we need to PM Skinner & EarlG about this obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #10
OMFG I didn't think about the onslaught obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #12
Thanks, great post, the end is in sight. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #13
Indeed it is ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #27
Nice! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #31
Kos doesn't think “She’s a sell-out corporatist whore oligarch"... yallerdawg Mar 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author debunction.junction Mar 2016 #42
Kos didn't say what he thinks. He said you can't say it, and we must support the Dem nomoniee debunction.junction Mar 2016 #42
NOTE TO THE HOSTS OF THIS GROUP!!!!! GusBob Mar 2016 #15
Duly Noted! Cha Mar 2016 #62
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #16
Most Excellent n/t fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #17
Nice, but it won't happen at DU book_worm Mar 2016 #19
From a business standpoint, I don't think Skinner can do it. Traffic would be impeded, thus revenue. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #20
I've been a star member for a long time. Loki Mar 2016 #29
Until recently, I have always maintained my star status. When I see changes, I'll return to my..... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #32
Yeah, Kos gets 22x the traffic. joshcryer Mar 2016 #60
11 days! ~2 Tuesdays from today Her Sister Mar 2016 #25
Nice to hear that the adults will be in charge over there. Loki Mar 2016 #28
If only ... BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #30
Wow! Great news if that happens at Kos SharonClark Mar 2016 #34
Excellent OP. Thank you. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #35
That is awesome ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #36
One line stuck out... JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #37
It's more ridiculous: NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #47
Well Kos finally said it. Loki Mar 2016 #59
KNR Lucinda Mar 2016 #38
March 15 would seem to be a bit early. malthaussen Mar 2016 #39
Seems to me it should have been SOP all along. For everyone. eom fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #61
Exactly. Lucinda Mar 2016 #64
Closing ranks is part of the process houston16revival Mar 2016 #40
Good luck to him Rose Siding Mar 2016 #41
Nice cherry picking of the Kos post. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #45
What do you mean, I wonder. MineralMan Mar 2016 #48
Except it wasn't -- and you are in the HRC protected group obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #52
My apologies. Didn't realize where I was. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #55
The butt hurt over there Loki Mar 2016 #51
Good for Kos. Gods help DU. nt Hekate Mar 2016 #58
It can't come soon enough. riversedge Mar 2016 #63
well what about this! Her Sister Mar 2016 #65

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
5. It's not gonna happen no.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary hate has become an entrenched DU institution

It may just flip over to she is a piece of shit used car salesman type stuff

Precedent has been set about gutter level here

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,757 posts)
49. True that
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 09:57 PM
Mar 2016

Remember all the shit Obama got six months after being elected and onward. He just wasn't liberal enough for many on DU.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
50. I'd disagree with that...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 10:08 PM
Mar 2016

I think that Skinner and the admin team care deeply about this site and are likely to detox it once the nomination is locked. People need to vent, we all get that, however if in 2008 people were talking about our first potential black president the way they are talking about our potential first female president, it would not have been tolerated.

I have faith that admin will transform this site overnight once the nomination is locked, otherwise there will be a mass migration of people who stop using DU. It's not constructive, it's not fun.

Republicans strategy, time and time again is apathy. Why would DU allow its users to do the same?

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
7. It will happen when the MSM announces Hillary has clinched.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:05 PM
Mar 2016

But I really, really wish Skinner would take a page from kos and make it sooner.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
46. Unfortunately, no
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 08:21 PM
Mar 2016

Apparently the admins have chosen to ignore the whole thing. I'm not going to speculate as to why, but it's true that little or nothing is done.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
4. Someone should PM this to the admins here.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:03 PM
Mar 2016

I'm definitely migrating over to the great orange Satan if shit doesn't calm down here.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
18. Yeah to warn them of the migrating shit heads
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:20 PM
Mar 2016

They will bring their Hillary hate over here where it's welcomed

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
22. I read the whole link Kos has good points
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:49 PM
Mar 2016

He is big on HRC supporters not spiking the football in the face of BSers

That one would be hard for me after what happened recently

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
56. I'll just tweet anything and post over at hcs if I write anything. Makes it easier to lure you over.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016


No use trying here.....

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Such COMMON SENSE rules he's got planned. Wow! Seems simple enough.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016
I guess we should prepare for an onslaught of rejected kossacks in need of their daily 5 minutes of Hillary hate here at DU.

This thought crossed my mind as well.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
10. I think we need to PM Skinner & EarlG about this
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:13 PM
Mar 2016

Doing the same thing, if the math plays out that way.

Some of the comments on KOS are

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
14. Kos doesn't think “She’s a sell-out corporatist whore oligarch"...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:17 PM
Mar 2016

isn't constructive criticism?

Well, neither do I.

I do agree with: "If that’s what you want, might I suggest Free Republic?"

And this is why - any 5 comments and we are out!

We need the transition. Democrats will return and replace those others.

We got an election in November!

Response to yallerdawg (Reply #14)

42. Kos didn't say what he thinks. He said you can't say it, and we must support the Dem nomoniee
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

regardless of who it is because there is too much at stake. The number one priority is the Supreme Court.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
15. NOTE TO THE HOSTS OF THIS GROUP!!!!!
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES SOUND THE ALARM.....TO ARMS.....MAN THE BARRICADES!

We are about to be beset with an onslaught, an infestation, a plague of trolls of biblical proportion

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
19. Nice, but it won't happen at DU
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

I wish though if they are going to continue attacks on HRC they would at least stop using GOP talking points and websites.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
29. I've been a star member for a long time.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

If it doesn't get cleaned up, I can always take my money elsewhere so I don't have to put up with this anti-Democratic
crap. I support Democrats, that's what is has always been about.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,222 posts)
32. Until recently, I have always maintained my star status. When I see changes, I'll return to my.....
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016

former status. I don't mind supporting causes that I'm passionate about, I always have, but what's happened here over the past few months, has disturbed me to no end. I've seen many good DU'ers silenced, as they have been alert stalked out of existence, especially AA posters.

When these things change, I hope those posters will be allowed to return, and won't face the same kind of abuse.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
60. Yeah, Kos gets 22x the traffic.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:33 PM
Mar 2016

DU will hold off as long as possible, may even get people from Kos coming here.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
30. If only ...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:18 PM
Mar 2016

this would happen here.

This:

There’s a difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Do I need to spell it out? It’s the difference between “We need to put pressure on her to do the right thing on TPP” versus “she’s a sell-out corporatist whore oligarch.” In general, if you’re resorting to cheap sloganeering like “oligarch” or “warmonger” or “neocon”, you might want to reframe your argument in a more substantive, issue-focused and constructive matter. Again, I’m not interested in furthering the Right’s hate-fueled media machine. If that’s what you want, might I suggest Free Republic?


Please. Please. Please.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
37. One line stuck out...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:36 PM
Mar 2016

...in reference to Hillary bashing:

If that’s what you want, might I suggest Free Republic?


It's gotten ridiculous here to the point that I suspect if I just posted a title as "Hillary is an ugly bitch" I'd get a hundred recs before the thread was rightly locked.

Six months ago I was still undecided, but the sheer hatred of Clinton (all three of them) drove me squarely into her camp. I don't want anyone to think I'm associated with such vile behavior against a Democrat. Good for Kos, it's about time.


On edit:
There's already a post on the Greatest Threads Page about how terrible this move by Kos is. He'll be compared to a Nazi soon. They miss the bigger point that Kos is officially naming Hillary the eventual winner. I bet that berns.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
47. It's more ridiculous:
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 08:27 PM
Mar 2016
It's gotten ridiculous here to the point that I suspect if I just posted a title as "Hillary is an ugly bitch" I'd get a hundred recs before the thread was rightly locked.


It may not be locked. Some horrible posts have been left standing with hundeds of recs despite multiple alerts and appeals to admins.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
59. Well Kos finally said it.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:08 PM
Mar 2016

The Free Republic path is open for the Bernie Bros to go and congregate. LOL thats great!

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
39. March 15 would seem to be a bit early.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:44 PM
Mar 2016

To quote Mrs Clinton: "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California."

-- Mal

houston16revival

(953 posts)
40. Closing ranks is part of the process
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:49 PM
Mar 2016

we all need to be reminded how important this election will be

3 or 4 Supreme Court justices, National Parks, Minimum wage, Union membership

and the list goes on

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