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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:40 PM Mar 2016

Bernie's top strategist: Bernie might consider being HRC's VP

Ask people in Hillary Clinton’s world whether they have a secret weapon to help win over voters under the age of old, and many will offer this answer: Bernie Sanders

When I mention all this to Sanders’ top strategist, Tad Devine, he responds with a big belly laugh — then he goes there.

“Maybe they’re going to put him on the ticket then,” Devine tells me during a wide-ranging 45-minute interview for POLITICO’s “Off Message” podcast. He isn’t joking, as far as I can tell

“I’m sure, of course, anyone would,” Devine says when I ask if he could see a scenario where Sanders would actually say yes. They haven’t talked about the possibility, Devine adds, and he says Sanders would never, ever consider it “unless you know, it was done in the right and proper way.” That’s a far cry from last year, when Sanders and Co. rebuffed the second-banana suggestion by countering with an offer to give Clinton the vice presidential slot on his ticket.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/tad-devine-inside-bernie-sanders-campaign-220357#ixzz42FAPVNE0

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Bernie's top strategist: Bernie might consider being HRC's VP (Original Post) book_worm Mar 2016 OP
That is beyond bizarre comradebillyboy Mar 2016 #1
+1 Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #7
insurance enid602 Mar 2016 #2
No--he'd be horrible, and a loose cannon. Better to give him Secretary of Labor. MADem Mar 2016 #3
Not sure about even that romana Mar 2016 #9
Put him in charge of the National Parks. George II Mar 2016 #19
Ohh! I'd love that FreedomRain Mar 2016 #35
Absurd Zambero Mar 2016 #4
No bravenak Mar 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #6
For so many reasons Treant Mar 2016 #8
No Iliyah Mar 2016 #10
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! William769 Mar 2016 #11
Oh Hell No SunSeeker Mar 2016 #12
If Hillary wants someone who'll be undercutting & sabotaging her at every turn, I could see it. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #13
No. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #14
Not a good idea. brush Mar 2016 #15
He's older than she is Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueIdaho Mar 2016 #17
+ 1000 n/t livetohike Mar 2016 #20
NO ! Setsuna1972 Mar 2016 #18
I hope not. I have many reasons why I do not want him on the ticket. The first is that he is not livetohike Mar 2016 #21
Right and proper way... fun n serious Mar 2016 #22
Maybe this: "Excuse me, I'm talking. Do you want to be my VP?" spooky3 Mar 2016 #41
If he were on the Hillary ticket... yallerdawg Mar 2016 #23
I cant say nobody would do that FreedomRain Mar 2016 #33
in honor of Nancy Reagan dlwickham Mar 2016 #24
Good one. :) nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #39
BARF ALERT! misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #25
Laugh for the day riversedge Mar 2016 #26
the first item on the VP checklist 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #27
Oh HELL no ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #28
Persuasive Responses Here . . . Add Me to the "Nos" DarthDem Mar 2016 #29
OK.. here are my thoughts. OKNancy Mar 2016 #30
I'm not worried about his last name Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #38
Very Unlikely peggysue2 Mar 2016 #31
Ha-ha! As reality sets in... pandr32 Mar 2016 #32
Good grief,no. Dream on , Devine UtahLib Mar 2016 #34
Am I the only one who thinks this is a very unusual sufrommich Mar 2016 #36
Yep, that was my point really in posting it book_worm Mar 2016 #37
No wysi Mar 2016 #40
Never going to happen. Sure way to lose the election FloridaBlues Mar 2016 #42
This from the guy who supposedly said Bernie is running against the Democrats? LisaM Mar 2016 #43
Maybe Sec. of Labor... charlyvi Mar 2016 #44
No. Nothing in the Hillary Administration. jmowreader Mar 2016 #47
Oh, hell no Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #45
Two words: Fuck. No. jmowreader Mar 2016 #46
Devine was being being flippant SharonClark Mar 2016 #48
Remember when one of those brilliant "strategists" of BS' said they would consider Hillarry for VP? Cha Mar 2016 #49

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. No--he'd be horrible, and a loose cannon. Better to give him Secretary of Labor.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:45 PM
Mar 2016

Make him the promise, put him out on the hustings with a canned and limited speech, and let him round up his faithful and convert them to the cause.

I'd rather see Castro get the nod than Sanders. Or any of a dozen likely possibilities. Even a Clinton-Warren ticket would be better, though she'd take some heat (the usual insults about her heritage, e.g.) and she's not really a skilled debater even though she was able to vanquish the doltish Scott Brown (she might have trouble against a silver-tongued devil, she gets a bit TOO earnest at times).

romana

(765 posts)
9. Not sure about even that
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not sure any administration could trust him to actually be supportive if they do something he doesn't like. I don't see a place for him anywhere in a Clinton administration, to be honest. He's better in Congress, anyway.

FreedomRain

(413 posts)
35. Ohh! I'd love that
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:52 PM
Mar 2016

He would be my best boss ever!

But realistically, Veteran Affairs is a better fit, though he'd probably rather stay in the Senate.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
4. Absurd
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016

Decades ago someone even suggested that Alpha-Dog LBJ might agree to become upstart JFK's VP running mate, provided RFK was enthusiastic enough about the idea.

And now this!

Response to book_worm (Original post)

Treant

(1,968 posts)
8. For so many reasons
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016

I don't like this idea. He's a single note candidate and every attempt to strike another note turns out rather sour. He hasn't shown much ability at decorum, which a VP needs when filling in for the President in important meetings.

She may not bear any resentment toward him, but he seems to bear some toward her. An unfaithful VP is a really bad idea.

I'd rather see an up and comer like Castro--or somebody else that hasn't been floated just yet.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
13. If Hillary wants someone who'll be undercutting & sabotaging her at every turn, I could see it.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

However, there are many more actual "Democrats" who will have just as much impact on the ticket, who might also put an actual state in play.

brush

(53,765 posts)
15. Not a good idea.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:06 PM
Mar 2016

I hate to mention it but Sanders is in his 70s.

If Clinton was president and dies, and VP Sanders can't serve the line of succession falls to the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan.

Who wants that?

And talk about bus-worthy, if I were the Sanders operative who said Bernie might be willing to be number 2 on the ticket, I'd be very, very careful when crossing the street, especially near bus stops.

Response to book_worm (Original post)

livetohike

(22,140 posts)
21. I hope not. I have many reasons why I do not want him on the ticket. The first is that he is not
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

respectful to Hillary. The second is he is not respectful to the Democratic Party. Thirdly, Hillary will win New England states on her own and should bring someone in from another region of the country. Another point against Sanders as VP is I don't think he would have her back the way VP Biden is loyal to Pres. Obama.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
23. If he were on the Hillary ticket...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:41 PM
Mar 2016

his supporters would evaporate.

It's not "I Love Bernie."

It's "I Hate Hillary."

FreedomRain

(413 posts)
33. I cant say nobody would do that
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016

but you are way off. Perhaps fooled by the effect that more radical opinions get more airplay. A Yuge majority of Sanders supporters would be happy to vote him for VP.

That said, I doubt it would happen, but both sides would be fools to not consider it, and they would also be fools to talk seriously about it in public at this point in the race.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
25. BARF ALERT!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:11 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders would never, ever consider it “unless you know, it was done in the right and proper way.” 

Oh yes, if Bernie calls the shots..wags his finger in her face & tells her to be quiet ...
She has a superb list for VP, qualified & dignified, well educated & versed in public policy & law & superior to Bernie in every way.

A superb list. And Bernie's not on it.

He has accomplished nothing that qualifies him to hold a place of such honor. No foreign policy nor governance in a diverse & global society where all parts work together to make it run well.
The world is not Vermont.

Good lord!

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
29. Persuasive Responses Here . . . Add Me to the "Nos"
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:23 PM
Mar 2016

When I first clicked on the topic and read the link, for a few moments I thought about bringing over these "millenials" (I put it in quotes because I most dislike generation labels other than Baby Boomers, and really dislike that one in particular) who seem to adore Sanders, and how having him on the ticket would help.

But would it? I bet tons of those people would disappear EVEN IF Sanders was on the ticket and he was no longer, in effect, a protest candidate. (Heck, a lot of them seem to be disappearing anyway.) He'd just become another traitor and tool of the establishment in their eyes, right?

Then you add in bringing nothing geographically and - perhaps most importantly - his total unwillingness or inability so far to do any downticket campaigning for Democrats in Congress. I guess that's because he's not a Democrat, which is why some days I still try to figure out how and why he's running to be the party's nominee for the highest office in the country. Finally, the disrespectful behavior towards Secretary Clinton just doesn't help.

So, no. I hope he'll be an effective member of the Senate for years to come.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
30. OK.. here are my thoughts.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

1. If you wanted to unite the party and have a blow-out win and were totally doing it for political reasons, it wouldn't be a bad idea.
2. The ticket would be very "old", however, if it is Trump... he's old too.
3. People would see it as a cynical move.
4. I really, really like Castro. ( I am concerned about his last name, but we can educate people during the campaign)

Finally... no way Hillary would pick him, and he wouldn't do it anyway.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
38. I'm not worried about his last name
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

Our current president is named Barack (what's that?!) Hussein (you mean like Saddam?!) Obama (rhymes with Osama?!). I think the American people can handle someone with the last name Castro (sounds like Fidel?!).

pandr32

(11,579 posts)
32. Ha-ha! As reality sets in...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

Is that what it will take for them to reign in the hate they've deliberately seeded and stoked against HC?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
36. Am I the only one who thinks this is a very unusual
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:58 PM
Mar 2016

statement for a campaign manager to make? To me he's telegraphing that they know they're not going to win. I think it's strange.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
37. Yep, that was my point really in posting it
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:01 PM
Mar 2016

that his campaign is conceding that he won't be the nominee.

LisaM

(27,802 posts)
43. This from the guy who supposedly said Bernie is running against the Democrats?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

Well, that's a ringing endorsement to add him to the ticket.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
49. Remember when one of those brilliant "strategists" of BS' said they would consider Hillarry for VP?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

I do. Table turned.

Uh uh.. bad idea.

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