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misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:01 PM Mar 2016

HILLARY GROUP. Sanders’ “ghetto” gaffe ....... may have Crippled his bid for 2016 nom




‘Ghetto’ gaffe highlights Bernie Sanders campaign’s struggle with race


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Sanders’ “ghetto” gaffe underlined a persistent problem that may have crippled his bid for the 2016 nomination. He has struggled to connect with black voters, and his choice of words has often undercut a populist economic message that might have resonated with people of color.

Even if Sanders had the best of intentions, it was not his best moment, as evidenced by one of his most prominent African-American surrogates — former NAACP chairman Ben Jealous — who told NBC News: “Sen. Sanders is from Burlington, he grew up in old Brooklyn, he knows white folks live in ghettos.”


(Umm, so why did he say such a racially compartmentalized thing)

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His comment drew swift condemnation on social media, since it appeared that the Vermont lawmaker was implying that only black people live in impoverished communities, reinforcing inaccurate and painful stereotypes that have dogged African-Americans for years.

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Sanders, who has been shellacked repeatedly by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton among black voters in every 2016 contest to date, has aggressively tried to court African-Americans. He has worked references to criminal justice reform and voting rights into his stump speeches and debate talking points. He has boasted endorsements from black icons like Dr. Cornel West, Danny Glover and Harry Belafonte.
He has even tried to soften his past positions on gun control, in a direct nod to concerns in communities of color about the shootings of unarmed black men.


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-ghetto-gaffe-highlights-campaigns-struggle-race


(Not sure if msnbc's report has been posted here yet)
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HILLARY GROUP. Sanders’ “ghetto” gaffe ....... may have Crippled his bid for 2016 nom (Original Post) misterhighwasted Mar 2016 OP
Oh, I get it now, only AAs live in the GHETTO Iliyah Mar 2016 #1
Who uses "ghetto" anymore? charlyvi Mar 2016 #10
That was my first thought also. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #12
Sanders really is stuck 50 years in the past. He has pictures! yardwork Mar 2016 #23
What term is used now? kjones Mar 2016 #20
Ghetto = Black folk misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #13
I have been waiting months for him to say something like this. bravenak Mar 2016 #2
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2016 #3
Look at the demographics of his own state of Vermont: George II Mar 2016 #4
You'd think he'd know better. Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #7
I feel like the last thing he ever read about race in the US was the Moynihan report. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #5
I just laughed out loud. It's probably literally true. yardwork Mar 2016 #24
Right? Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #25
His understanding of racism seems to be stuck in the 1960s yardwork Mar 2016 #28
I don't think it will hurt his campaign. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #6
You miss the point. Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #9
Oh on that front, yes I agree with you. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #15
"The point here is that he misstepped with a key demographic that he stumbled upon time-and-time" misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #16
Exactly. Deeply offensive and out of touch. yardwork Mar 2016 #29
Stubbornly clueless UtahLib Mar 2016 #8
Not only an AA gaffe peggysue2 Mar 2016 #11
Right on the mark 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #17
And what's bizarre us that he undermined the central theme of his campaign. yardwork Mar 2016 #31
K&R sheshe2 Mar 2016 #14
It's astounding. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #18
I imagine when BS hightailed it out of Brooklyn ASAP, they were still calling it that. This speaks Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #19
But but he was at a sit in! There are photos! yardwork Mar 2016 #26
BS' fifty year old civil rights dossier, notwithstanding, fact of the matter is...he got the hell... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #30
I'll be honest,I don't think the attacks on his ghetto comment sufrommich Mar 2016 #21
Two problems with the statement, as I see it: yardwork Mar 2016 #27
He keeps screwing up by making racially vharged comments that insult instead of inspire Setsuna1972 Mar 2016 #22

kjones

(1,053 posts)
20. What term is used now?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:28 PM
Mar 2016

I'm only 26, but it's the term I use for impoverished urban spaces,
guess I never thought about it being an antiquated word.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
13. Ghetto = Black folk
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016

That's chilling, & to think that this man is running as a Dem. The most inclusive Party in American history.


George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Look at the demographics of his own state of Vermont:
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:08 PM
Mar 2016

9.7% of the population living in poverty.
95% white.

Simple math would dictate that there are some white people in Vermont living in poverty, most likely more whites in poverty than blacks.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
7. You'd think he'd know better.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016

Especially since in the 1960s he brought his first wife home to a shack with a dirt floor, often had his utilities shut off in the 60s and 70s, and was sporadically employed in the same period.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
25. Right?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:27 PM
Mar 2016

I actually pulled it up to look at it before I posted that, and thought, it really could be true.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
6. I don't think it will hurt his campaign.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:12 PM
Mar 2016

We've been talking about how clueless he is when is comes to race relations from the jump. Not to mention his diehard fans are so absorbed in white privilege that they think all minorities are on welfare, are to ignorant to make grownup decisions for ourselves & live in the ghetto.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
9. You miss the point.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:18 PM
Mar 2016

It's not meant that it will turn die-hards away from his campaign. It's a fact that die-hards don't change their minds. However, for those who are on the fence, or are shaky in their support, they can and are turned off by his comments -- you've only to view Twitter. The point here is that he misstepped with a key demographic that he has stumbled upon time-and-time again. African-Americans. Now that's just with the shaky black point.

Take into account that his finger wagging was viewed unfavorably by many women and others online -- another demographic (excluding the young) -- that he has shaky support from, and I think you underestimate the affect this is, and will, have on the Sanders campaign.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
16. "The point here is that he misstepped with a key demographic that he stumbled upon time-and-time"
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:46 PM
Mar 2016

AND he said this in Flint, Mi. Where the subject of the night was Lead Poisoned Water in AA communities.

All ears were on this debate for that reason. And he refers to Black poor communities as the Ghetto.
He couldn't have stung any deeper, with such a reference.

peggysue2

(10,819 posts)
11. Not only an AA gaffe
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:31 PM
Mar 2016

He also stated that 'whites' do not know what it's like to be poor. Guess he hasn't wandered into Appalachia or many rural communities where the population is indeed white and indeed poor. According to recently released stats, this group is dying at a younger age than the rest of the population due to unemployment, poor to nonexistent health care, drugs and alcohol and depression. To say, these people have never known poverty is a gut punch, particularly when you're trying to earn their votes--disenfranchised blue collar workers.

He was wa-a-ay off last night, an equal opportunity offender.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
17. Right on the mark
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:10 PM
Mar 2016

He represents a state in which thousands of white people live in poverty. He might have noticed that if he had ever been interested in anything but his own self righteous bullshit.

yardwork

(61,533 posts)
31. And what's bizarre us that he undermined the central theme of his campaign.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

Up to now, Bernie has stubbornly refused to discuss racism. It's all about economics, according to him. That's exactly what was resonating with rural whites who've lost jobs to outsourcing.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
19. I imagine when BS hightailed it out of Brooklyn ASAP, they were still calling it that. This speaks
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016

to the distance he put between himself and communities of color so long ago. I'm sure he & most of his supporters don't even know what the big deal is, but that doesn't surprise me either.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
30. BS' fifty year old civil rights dossier, notwithstanding, fact of the matter is...he got the hell...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

out of Dodge..er, I mean...Brooklyn, with lightening speed, and didn't look back until now. Gee, I wonder why that is?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
21. I'll be honest,I don't think the attacks on his ghetto comment
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

are fair. I was a poorly worded statement,but I don't see any malice or racism behind it.He's obviously not a racist,this media pile on seems like kicking him when he's down to me.I thought his angry demeanor was much more damaging.Just my humble opinion.

yardwork

(61,533 posts)
27. Two problems with the statement, as I see it:
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:33 PM
Mar 2016

1. It implies that African American = poor. Considering that something like 75% of African Americans are not poor, this is a silly thing to say. Worse, it sounds patronizing and old fashioned, hearkening to 1960s era white folks talking about "those poor black people." This is deeply offensive to millions of people - people who vote.

2. It undermines his whole campaign theme to date, which has been that race doesn't matter, it's economics. So suddenly Bernie pivots and starts talking about racism. It muddies his message.

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
22. He keeps screwing up by making racially vharged comments that insult instead of inspire
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016

And just once or twice, but repeatedly ! Meanwhile,the Bernie Bros still insist that he's the best thing for Black voters since Jesus

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