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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:20 AM Mar 2016

Nate Silver on Math

NATE SILVER 12:03 AM

Sanders’s Tough Math ~There are 131 pledged delegates at stake tonight for Democrats. It’s going to be hard for Sanders to win a majority of those given that Arizona has most of the delegates and Clinton is winning big there, but it’s not impossible if he crushes it in Utah and Idaho. So let’s say he almost does it. Clinton gets 66 delegates on the night and Sanders gets 65.

That would get Sanders up to 920 pledged delegates, while Clinton would have 1,242, with 1,889 pledged delegates still outstanding. Skipping a little bit of math, but Sanders would need 59 percent of the remaining total to tie Clinton in pledged delegates. That’s really difficult to do; it would be equivalent to beating Clinton by 18 percentage points the rest of the way out. Merely breaking even in delegates isn’t nowhere near enough for Sanders at this point.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/march-22-primaries-arizona-utah-presidential-election-2016/

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/

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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
1. We can make informed predictions
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:22 AM
Mar 2016
We can make informed predictions.

We know that Clinton does best in larger, more diverse states. We know that Sanders does best in smaller, less diverse states. That's a pattern, and I see no reason to believe that pattern will get flipped upside down. Given that and Clinton's 300+ delegate lead, it's virtually impossible for Sanders to win the nomination.

Request after request has been made for someone to use one of the delegate calculators to demonstrate a realistic path to 2026 for Sanders. As far as I know, those requests have never been answered. There's a reason for that.



Plagiarizing (again) this comment from Garrett78 (LOL!!) http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511547639#post31

Thought t'was perfect and succinct!

Treant

(1,968 posts)
8. One view was mine
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

and I didn't answer because I thought the way it was set up was far too rosy for Bernie.

Kaleva

(36,248 posts)
13. Yes I have and the OP has been deleted.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

OP's post:

"I've been ordered to delete this discussion

by a mod or I will be blocked from the group.

I guess we can't discuss delegate math here..."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=155764

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. Bernbabe shouldn't have deleted the post. At worst the only thing they could ...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:53 PM
Mar 2016

... have done would be to lock it, but not delete it. As it turns out, the threat to "self-delete or be banned" was an empty promise. Bernbabe deleted the post as requested, and was BANNED ANYWAY.

It's absolutely hysterical that you got banned for making a "kick" post. No text, just "kicked".

They're getting a bit touchy over there, aren't they?

Kaleva

(36,248 posts)
15. I'm banned member #306 and he's #307
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:08 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not upset for being banned as I'm not a Bernie supporter and they can run their group as they see fit. And your right about Bernbabe should not have deleted his post as it was an interesting question which could have been cross posted in GDP if no one in the Bernie group wanted to answer it there.

LiberalFighter

(50,783 posts)
19. I got blocked from the Sanders group yesterday after only one reply.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:52 AM
Mar 2016

It was only stating information about the Arizona fiasco. Beam Me Up Scotty blocked me.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
5. Then there is this, while still awaiting last
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

night's results and final delegate totals.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/march-22-primaries-arizona-utah-presidential-election-2016/

On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton won Arizona easily, while Bernie Sanders won Utah and (although it hasn’t been called officially yet) very probably will win Idaho — in both cases perhaps by overwhelming margins. Thus, it’s probable — likely if I had to guess — that Sanders will win more pledged delegates on the evening.

Not all the news is good for Sanders, however. He was expected to win more delegates on the evening based on our demographic targets — and more importantly, he’s far enough behind Clinton that he needs to not just meet but blow out his delegate targets the rest of the way to have a shot at eventually catching Clinton. Alaska, Hawaii and Washington will vote on Saturday, states where we expect Sanders to perform well.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. I expect the majority of the super delegates to go to Hillary and if any are going to change it will
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

be from Sanders to Hillary.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,222 posts)
12. "Merely breaking even in delegates isn’t nowhere near enough for Sanders at this point."
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

This is the part the BS'ers stubbornly refuse to accept. He needs blowouts everywhere from now on.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
16. April 19 and 26 are going to be dark days for him.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:46 PM
Mar 2016

We in the Northeast are ready to give Hillary the nod.

Wisconsin may go against him too.

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