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Related: About this forumSusan Sarandon Is a Privileged Idiot
When asked by Hayes about the "Bernie or Bust" movement, though not put in those exact words, Sarandon's response didn't leave much room for equivocation. Thats a legitimate concern, she said, calling Sanders's rabid disciples "very passionate and principled. When Hayes pushed back and wondered if that was, you know, "crazy" given that Clinton has largely the same beliefs as most liberals, Sarandon responded, "Yeah but she doesnt!" She then ran down the usual vague litany of "problems" with Clinton: "She accepted money for all of those people. She doesnt even want to fight for a $15 minimum wage. So these are people that have not come out before. So why would we think theyre going to come out now for her, you know? Before you answer, "Because if the alternative is Donald Trump, you'd be an irresponsible moron for not understanding that getting a good portion of what you want beats getting a racist, misogynistic, would-be fascist demagogue," fret not -- Sarandon has a comeback to that.
When pressed on that very possibility, even with the knowledge that Sanders himself would likely endorse Clinton, Sarandon hesitated, saying that some people just wouldn't vote for Clinton no matter what. And, when pressed further on the question of whether she was one of those people, she answered that she just doesn't know, but added evasively, "Some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately if he gets in, things will really explode. Hayes immediately reminded her how dangerous that kind of thinking is and Sarandon shot back, Its dangerous to think that we can continue the way we are with the militarized police force, with privatized prisons, with the death penalty, with the low minimum wage, threats to womens rights and think you cant do something huge to turn that around." And of course, Donald Trump would be a huge step in the right direction on all of those fronts.
In some ways, sane people this election cycle -- the few fighting to be heard amidst the sound and fury of the extremes -- owe Susan Sarandon a serious debt of gratitude on this one. There are those who see the "Bernie or Bust" movement as strictly an internet phenomenon, one promoted only by impressionable kids who probably won't vote anyway, but Sarandon has just elevated it and given a face to it. And, as it turns out, it's the face of L'Oreal, a face attached to an Oscar-winning actress and member of Hollywood royalty. In case that isn't enough to point out the laughable irony of Sarandon's apparent willingness to throw the country under the bus, let's make it crystal clear: Susan Sarandon is as privileged an individual as they come, someone almost certainly insulated from whatever catastrophes the country might experience under a President Trump, and yet she sees no problem leaving the rest of us plebes to drown. She's the prime example of the moral bankruptcy of those claiming that a Trump presidency would actually be good for the country in the long run -- because she's not the one who'll have to sacrifice to achieve her dream of a democratic socialist utopia.
If Susan Sarandon really wants to allude to throwing her vote in with the "some" who claim that revolution will be the natural response to a Trump presidency, then she should volunteer to surrender her vast wealth and privilege and live as most average people would under such a neo-dictatorship. It's a breeze to talk about revolution and the compromises needed to make it so when you're not the one forced to compromise, when the only suffering you'll do is shaking your head in disapproval and consternation as you look down at the plight of everyone else from your $1.75 million Greenwich Village penthouse. Sarandon wants instantaneous transformation but, like so many pushing for Bernie Sanders's version of instantaneous transformation, she doesn't want to pay for it and she won't settle for the incremental change that our system is designed for and which has made the lives of so many better for so long. She has moral certitude and a host of vague accusations and buzzwords, but little else.
http://thedailybanter.com/2016/03/susan-sarandon-trump-clinton-idiot/
madaboutharry
(40,190 posts)She is beyond privileged.
JustAnotherGen
(31,780 posts)So is she buying food insecure kids lunch and breakfast in NYC this summer? She can afford to make up for the food shortfall when they are out of school. Or does that happen after the revolution?
I seriously feel like writing her for a donation to my local food bank and community kitchen.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)but wait ... After the revolution, there will be no more poor people: so, she'll probably just buy something nice for herself with the $50,000,000.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)when corporate,slave labor loving L'Oreal threw some money her way. She's a massive hypocrite.
JustAnotherGen
(31,780 posts)Purchased in 2011 - http://ny.curbed.com/2011/6/30/10458418/susan-sarandon-buys-1-75-million-village-penthouse
I'm having a hard time relating to her right now.
Thanks to brooklynite for making me actually look at a 'Celebrity Endorsement' thread (posting one to pique my interest) I've been avoiding them because I think they are extremely tone deaf and well . . . I can't relate to them at all. On another note - these are the type of people that buy my husband's artwork so I'm hesitant to criticize.
I'm also in that group of DUers who get accused of playing "I got mine so screw you". Not the case but that's the perception.
Next time someone says/writes that to me - I'm posting a link to her apartment. Her place is more expensive than mine so she won the privileged game.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)then she needs her head examined.
yardwork
(61,538 posts)So far, your post just cuts to the chase and says exactly how I feel! So simple! Whiny twit! Love it!
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)(that's a European label)
BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)Such high-sounding principles - when subjected to scrutiny - ring very hollow.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)That was evident a long time ago when she rallied for Nader.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)but this idiot doesn't learn
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)and very consistent in her Naderism.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)This position is consistent for her. Give the election to the GOP
LiberalFighter
(50,783 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)The idiots who supported Nader gave the Bush the opportunity to appoint Jim Crow Roberts and Alito which lead to Citizens United and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Saranders (sic) has tripped to many times on acid.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)actually it's disgusting.
Millions will suffer brutally, many will die, but at least this ninny will have her principles.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)She had no clue if she'd vote for Clinton over Trump. He who has Aryan nations members manning the phones. How the hell does that make any sense?
DURHAM D
(32,606 posts)Susan is male-identified. Her sense of self is derived from what men think of her. Note how she tends to date younger men. Also, she latches onto men to get her time in the spotlight like Tim, John Edwards, Ralph Nader and now Bernie.
Hillary is self-actualized and thus reminds Susan of her personal failings. Susan reacts with anger and fear.
Hillary's competence and accomplishments frightens and infuriates people, both men and women, who only view women as extensions of the male ego.
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)She is trying to spin the bullshit she spewed yesterday and OF COURSE the Bernie peeps are falling over her to justify what she said.
She doesn't give a flying fuck what a happens to us on ground from her West Village Penthouse if Trump wins. Her little revolution will not hurt her or her kids one BIT! She's got her money. She's not gay and HER marriage would not be on the line under a Trump Administration. HER daughters will never have to worry about their own reproductive rights.
I LOVE Susan as an actress and admire her for her activism on issues. BUT she has shown her arrogance and IGNORANCE even more this election with her disrespect to Dolores Huerta. She does NOT like to be told she is wrong based on her twitter replies to on other people that have called her out on her bullshit.
Damn it, Janet. I don't think I love you anymore.