Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumDid Sanders just say we'll see about raising money for the party and candidates? HRC ROOM
Wow!
Satch59
(1,353 posts)Found that surprising...and insightful...guess the Dem party in his view is a party of one?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)pandr32
(11,562 posts)He is all about himself. He doesn't have a congressional coalition backing him because these people work with him and know he is not a team player--he is a "it's my way or the highway" kind of person. He is using the Democrat Party to help him with his own ambition--he has no interest helping anyone else--except for "when I win I will be so great you'll thank me"--or something similar.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)I don't understand why he doesn't understand he needs down ballot dems if he becomes president.
pandr32
(11,562 posts)The "huuuge" support he assumes he will have will automatically support the down ticket...or something!
rock
(13,218 posts)I'm not kidding. From the first he's show ineptitude over how politics works. Of course to some, maybe even many, that's attractive. But it won't get you far in politics. In fact, let's just see how far Trump gets with that same ignorance.
pandr32
(11,562 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)He's a Democrat of convenience BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, so why would he help down ballot?
riversedge
(70,093 posts)This tweet summed up bernie's response
AMC
@Truthbuster
Now I heard #Bernie's response to @maddow: I don't give a f**k about #DownBallotDems, I'm just focused on myself & winning, let HRC fund'em!
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)DURHAM D
(32,606 posts)The difference is that Democrats and adults know that we have to take back the House, the Senate, state legislatures and Governor's seats to attain it.
riversedge
(70,093 posts)AMC
@Truthbuster
Now I heard #Bernie's response to @maddow: I don't give a f**k about #DownBallotDems, I'm just focused on myself & winning, let HRC fund'em!
Maru Kitteh
(28,323 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)timlot
(456 posts)Strange dodge of the question. How does it hurts to say yes will help. Given that most of his proposals are unlikely to pass a repug. congress. You would think he would want to help elect more democrats.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,323 posts)It's all about "making the stand."
He's the Ted Cruz of the left.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)He is just using our party to further his own political agenda.
The funniest part is that everything he has promoted will have no remote prayer of seeing the light of day without a democratic controlled congress. And still he can't help anyone down the ticket?
This is incredible. And it shows shocking ignorance as to how the political process works.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)His veneer is wearing thin these days much like Donald Trumps. They both still have plenty of followers that are attracted to their anti-government, simplistic answers for everything.
It really is time for the media to expose these egomaniacs.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)with this "it's all mine" attitude.
What a turn off
sheshe2
(83,661 posts)I can't listen to his angry voice anymore.
spooky3
(34,407 posts)How petty he was in that answer when that was unnecessary. I too was surprised when he admitted he had not been raising money for down ticket candidates while noting that Clinton WAS. (I've read posts here claiming he was contributed far more, but here he is now admitting NO involvement.) He said they wanted to focus on winning the nom and didn't have access to the kind of money Clinton did and wouldn't want it ("Nyah Nyah, that girl over there thinks she's so smart-- don't let her sit at our lunch table. And I don't like her outfit..." petty, not principled...
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)go to the party? i'm sure he can't keep it.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)I would dearly love to see the price tag for one of his rallies. (I take your point, though).
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)stay in -- probably not "motel 6" and i doubt if they eat at denny's.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)And subsist on bowls of gruel.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)riversedge
(70,093 posts)begrudge any candidate taking private planes--their schedule mandates it.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)When he said that, I wondered if he might use his fundraising as a way bargaining chip with superdelegates, particularly those going up for re-election soon. He can't really raise money for the DNC because he's essentially running against the party and can't ask his supporters to give money to it. But he might promise to raise money for particular individuals he endorses.
LiberalFighter
(50,795 posts)Over 50% are just DNC members that are not in Congress or Governors. His pool of possible delegates that might be more in need of re-election our on the house side only number about 231. Incumbent Senators should be doing fine on their own with some assistance from their Senate PAC.
Hillary has already been fundraising for many in Congress. So I doubt that Sanders has much of a carrot to offer.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)And the sheer will of exuberant followers
Kinda like how the white sea canal got dug
Walk away
(9,494 posts)FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Taddie is making a killing.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)When confronted with any sort of actual revolution he'd duck and cover.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)He has repeatedly said the parties are the same.
He ran as a Democrat only for he exposure.
I doubt he thinks he needs anyone else. When asked how he would get anything passed by Republicans, he has said he will go to the people and they will tell Republicans how to vote.
riversedge
(70,093 posts)He has NOT changed his mind about the Democratic Party that he formed 40 years ago!!
I don't give a f**k about #DownBallotDems, I'm just focused on myself & winning, let HRC fund'em!
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)for anyone who wants to see Bernie's own plans come to fruition?
He is promising single payer healthcare, breaking up the banks, free college and an overhaul of the energy industry. That is just for starters. Does he believe the current Republican majority will cooperate? How on earth does he plan to accomplish any of that without Democrats to vote for legislation? Making matters worse, a Sanders Presidency will embolden down ticket Republicans to seek to balance the "left wing" scales.
This is not looking good. Even his most ardent support must see that in this statement he is admitting his ideas are theoretical and he has no viable plan to make them happen. Or even an interest in creating one.
I'm being generous here when I say none of this makes any sense unless his run for the Presidency is an excuse to gain media attention and push ideas that will require actual Democrats to step in to accomplish the job.
And for that and all the other reasons, thank all that is holy HRC will get the nod!
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)haven't heard anyone mention that. Something that we really need to consider! NOt good. He will help elect Republicans down the ballot!!
Cha
(296,876 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)does not want funds to assist him in his next reelection. Says a low, still sitting on the back bench.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)because as of late, just looking at him grates on my nerves. However, given what I'm seeing here, now I'm going to watch the replay.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)was glad I watched the whole putrid mess. You know, any registered Dem who saw that, should be able to see he's in it for him. The party is a means to an end for him.
otohara
(24,135 posts)Why would he, he won't be the Dem candidate.
Go away you selfish douchebag.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)He was talking about turning turning the DNC/Democratic party into a 50-state party and I just laughed. You don't get a 50 state party with purity tests. In some states, my state included, you either get a republican or you get a blue dog. A tax raising progressive like Sanders would be laughed out of town.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,222 posts)DURHAM D
(32,606 posts)He still thinks we are all crooks.
From 1991 -
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2457&dat=19910712&id=vqJJAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Xg0NAAAAIBAJ&pg=4293,3641940&hl=en
Cha
(296,876 posts)Loki
(3,825 posts)But himself.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)The man is a mean-spirited narcissist of the worst order.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)He joined the party (sort of) so he could access the Democratic database of member/voters, money and other resources.
He is not an actual Democrat and he will not help Democrats get elected and 10 to 1, he will not support Hillary Clinton once she gets the nomination.
Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat!
Setsuna1972
(332 posts)The rest of the dNC be damned in his eyes !
riversedge
(70,093 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)giant ego!
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)She seemed disappointed and deflated