No changes in literacy in Venezuela since 2003

[Bacchus4.0]

http://www.eluniversal.com/economia/120814/no-changes-in-literacy-in-venezuela-since-2003

The Census 2011 numbers issued by the National Statistics Institute (INE) are generating reactions due to the number of illiterate people that the census recorded and after eradication of illiteracy was announced in 2005.

According to the Census, 4.9% of the Venezuelan population over 10 years is illiterate. This means that 1,101,706 people cannot write or read.

Mabel Mundó, a researcher of the Study Center for Development (Cendes), stated that since 2003, the Sampling Household Survey conducted by the INE indicated that the education missions were not changing the situation.

"Checking the record, it can be observed that the Household Survey of 2003 indicated 5.90% of illiteracy. Five years later, the illiteracy rate plunged to 5.50%. However, eight years after the implementation of the social programs for education, the illiteracy rate is 4.9% which means that this survey reflected limited changes in the illiteracy rate," she stated.

[Common Sense Party]

1. I see on wikipedia that the U.S. literacy rate is allegedly 99%. Is that true?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate

It would be surprising that only 1 out of 100 people in this country cannot read or write. Surprising in a good way...

[Bacchus4.0]

2. well, the US is a very developed country

so it would be sad if we did NOT have 99%. Of course, it doesn't tell us the level of reading proficiency.

[Common Sense Party]

15. Maybe that's why it sounded high to me.

I was probably thinking more of proficiency.

[naaman fletcher]

3. This can't be!

The useful idiots have told us that Chavez eliminated illiteracy.

[Mika]

4. AND, they claim that it is a utopian paradise. I see it here ALL the time.

[naaman fletcher]

6. I don't know, I haven't seen that.

But I have seen the claim that illiteracy was wiped out.

[naaman fletcher]

7. Here is a link

Since you seemed to doubt me. There are many more, this is just one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3404427&mesg_id=3406537

[Bacchus4.0]

5. how can the Ven census agency contradict Hugo??

I just can't wrap my head around this.

[naaman fletcher]

8. Clearly you are wrong

What is being "entrenched" in Venezuela is REAL democracy, including transparent,

honest, aboveboard, internationally certified elections, the election of REAL representatives of the people, the expansion of power to include the previously excluded vast poor majority, encouragement of citizen participation, advancement of human rights including the rights of women, gays and lesbians, African-Venezuelans, the Indigenous and others, and genuine efforts at social justice with some remarkable successes (including cutting poverty by half, cutting extreme poverty by 70%, wiping out illiteracy and a doubling of high school and college enrollment).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=405&topic_id=35865&mesg_id=36084

[ocpagu]

9. Yes... no changes in literacy in Venezuela...

Unesco, of course, is either a lier or a "useful idiot":

http://stats.uis.unesco.org/unesco/TableViewer/document.aspx?ReportId=121&IF_Language=eng&BR_Country=8620

BTW: illiteracy among youths has in fact almost being eradicated.

According to the World Bank, in 2007, literacy reached 98.4% of people between 15-24 years old.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/venezuela/literacy-rate-youth-total-percent-of-people-ages-15-24-wb-data.html

[naaman fletcher]

10. Your link

Shows literacy from 1990 until 2010. Obviously, that is not wholly the relevant time period unless you want to give a lot of credit to CAP.

[ocpagu]

11. Yes.

It covers the period from 1990 to 2010, including, therefore, 2003-2010.

You can see in it for example that pre-primary school enrolment grew from 52% in 2002 to 73% in 2010.

It also shows that secondary school enrolment grew from 68% in 2002 to 83% in 2010.

My second link shows that 6 years ago, iliteracy among youngs was, in fact, almost eradicated.

Nothing changed since 2003, huh?

[naaman fletcher]

13. I never said nothing changed since 2003

That is a straw-man argument. We were talking about illiteracy.

As for your second link, it says that illiteracy among the young was 98.4%. However, that is the only data point in the series on your link so we don't know what happened since any previous date.

However, looking at this data from the same website, it would appear that most of the gains happened during CAP's tenure, not Chavez's:

http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/venezuela/literacy-rate

[Bacchus4.0]

12. you should take that up with the National Statistics Institute of Ven

about their numbers indicating that the literacy rate is flat. Mind you, overall its high. But Venezuela has had a high literacy rate for awhile now. But you can't say illiteracy has been eliminated.

[idwiyo]

14. Chávez no ha muerto, el vive en la revolución! ¡Hasta la victoria siempre!

There is always more to do.

I'd love to have a look at FULL report, not just few snippets out of it...
Got links?

I am sure YOU'll know how easy it is to misrepresent the the facts, don't you?